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NEWSFEED: 4/7/04, PT. 2 RUMSFELD TESTIFIES RE IRAQI PRISON ABUSE SCANDAL, SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN, SENATOR JOE LIEBERMAN, GEN. DICK MEYERS, ABUSE TIMELINE; INT Sen. John McCain grills Donald Rumsfeld during his testimony on Iraqi prisoner abuse; INT Sen. Ted Kennedy gives a statement on his opinions of the abuse scandal; INT Rumsfeld talks about disclosure of abuse to media, Sen. Roberts takes turn asking questions;INT tilt-d chart that timelines the abuse scandal as it unfolded; INT Sen. Joe Lieberman asks Rumsfeld about the abuses, states that while apologies are necessary, we must not disrespect troops; INT Sen. Sessions gives props to Rummy, another shot of the timeline, General discusses Taguba Report; INT female senator grills Rumsfeld on his reaction to the abuse; INT another senator makes some comments to Rummy on abuse, asks Rummy and Gen. Smith when they first saw the abuse photos; INT senator asks Gen. Meyers a few questions, Myers answers are evasive and he is instructed to speak up;
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NEWSFEED APRIL 7, 2004 CU GENERAL LANCE SMITH AND SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN. SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN AND PANEL OF SENATORS INCLUDING JOE LIEBERMAN,TED KENNEDY, CARL LEVIN, PAT ROBERTS, ROBERT BYRD, JACK REED, SUSAN COLLINS QUESTION DONALD RUMSFELD DURING THE SENATE HEARING ABOUT IRAQI PRISONER ABUSE (AT THE ABU GHARIB PRISON) IN 2002-2003. MEMBERS OF MILITARY INTELLIGENCE ALSO PRESENT SEATED AT A SEPARATE TABLE INCLUDING GENERAL DICK MEYERS, GENL SMITH, UNDER SECRETARY FOR DEFENSE STEVE CAMBONE,
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DEFENSE SECRETARY DONALD RUMSFELD TESTIFIES IN FRONT OF SENATE COMMITTEE REGARDING THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE MILITARY PRISON GUARDS AND MILITARY INTELLIGENCE.
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CU SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN. CU RUMSFELD HE STATES MILITARY GUARDS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THE DETENTION PROCESS, MILITARY INTELLIGENCE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR INTERROGATION OF PRISONERS. CU SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN - HE ASKS WHAT THE INSTRUCTIONS TO THE GUARDS WERE. CU RUMSFELD RESPONDS THEIR INSTRUCTIONS WERE TO ADHERE TO THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS, HOWEVER OVER TIME RESPONSIBILITIES SHIFTED.
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| 01:02:09 129.41 |
CU SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN. HE THANKS RUMSFELD FOR HIS TESTIMONY.
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| 01:02:22 142.14 |
CAMERA PANS AROUND ROOM OF SENATE COMMITTEE, MEDIA PEOPLE, CAMERAMEN ON THE FLOOR AND OTHERS IN BACKGROUND.
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| 01:02:26 146.77 |
CU SENATOR TED KENNEDY. HE READS HIS STATEMENT OF OPINION REGARDING THE IRAQI PRISONER ABUSE STATING THE REPORTED INSTANCES RESULTED IN A CATASTROPHIC CRISIS FOR OUR NATION. ADDITIONALLY HE STATES THERE WERE TOO FEW GUARDS, THEY WERE USING INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS, NO ONE WAS HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND MILITARY LEADERSHIP FAILED TO RESPOND TO PROVEN INVESTIGATIONS , PARTICULARLY IN 2002 AT BAGRAM AIR BASE, THAT RESULTED IN TWO DEATHS FROM BLUNT FORCE TRAUMAS.
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| 01:05:40 340.54 |
CU DONALD RUMSFELD. HE DENIES SENATOR KENNEDY'S STATEMENT AND SAYS IT IS NOT CORRECT THAT THEY DID NOT ACT.
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| 01:06:00 360.51 |
CU SENATOR TED KENNEDY HE ASKS RUMSFELD WHAT WAS DONE ABOUT THE SITUATION AND INSISTS NOTHING WAS DONE.
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CU DONALD RUMSFELD TALKS ABOUT THE CORRECTIONS THEY MADE IN RESPONSE TO THE ABUSE ACCUSATIONS, THE TIMELINE OF THE ABUSES, TYPES OF ABUSES, AND HOW IT WAS REPORTED TO THE MEDIA AND WHEN THEY WERE KNOWLEDGABLE ABOUT IT.
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| 01:09:02 542.46 |
AS SENATOR ROBERTS SPEAKS THE CAMERA PANS OUT OVER ROOM OF SENATE COMMITTEE, THE MEDIA, AND OTHERS.
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CU SENATOR PAT ROBERTS (CHAIRMAN OF INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE). HE FURTHER GRILLS RUMSFELD WERE THERE ANY RULES OR POLICIES CONDONING THE ABUSES.
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| 01:09:46 586.22 |
CU DONALD RUMSFELD . HE ANSWERS SENATOR ROBERTS QUESTIONS AND STATES THERE ARE NO RULES CONDONING ENCOURAGING OR PERMITTING THE TYPES OF ABUSES THAT OCCURRED.
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CU SENATOR ROBERTS (CHAIRMAN OF INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE) MOVING ON WITH QUESTIONING STATING THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE SUGGESTING THE ABUSES WERE ENCOURAGED OR CONDONED BY MILITARY INTELLIGENCE OR CIA. HE DIRECTLY QUESTIONS RUMSFELD IF THERE WAS ANY TRUTH TO THE ALLEGATIONS THAT THE ABUSES WERE DIRECTED AND CONDONED BY MILITARY INTELLIGENCE.
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| 01:11:50 710.76 |
CU DONALD RUMSFELD. HE RESPONDS TO SENATOR ROBERTS QUESTIONS THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE ALLEGATIONS AND WILL HAVE ANSWERS SOON.
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| 01:12:13 733.89 |
CU SENATOR ROBERTS ASKING FOR A TIMEFRAME OF WHEN THE REPORTS WILL BE COMPLETED.
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| 01:12:14 734.16 |
CAMERA PANS SENATE COMMITTEE. GENERAL LANCE SMITH RESPONDS REPORT WILL BE COMPLETED IN A FEW WEEKS DUE TO THE UNIT WAS REDEPLOYED BACK TO GERMANY.
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CU SENATOR ROBERTS. ASKS WHO IS IN CHARGE. CU GENERAL SMITH. HE RESPONDS THAT IT IS MAJOR GENERAL JEFF MILLER WHO HAS BEEN THERE SINCE MIDDLE OF APRIL.
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CAMERA PANS AROUND SENATE COMMITTEE, TABLE WITH MILITARY INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS AND ROOM FULL OF MEDIA AS SENATOR BYRD SPEAKS APOLOGIZING FOR HAVING LARYNGITIS. CU SENATOR BYRD AS HE ANGRILY STATES CONGRESS HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DEMAND A PUBLIC ACCOUNTING AND A PUBLIC EXPLANATION FROM MILITARY LEADERSHIP AND DEFENSE DEPARTMENT OF THIS CATASTROPHE . THEY KNEW ABOUT IT FOR MONTHS AND NO ONE BROKE THE SILENCE UNTIL CBS REVEALED IT IN A GRAPHIC TV BROADCAST OF THE ABUSE. HE ASKS RUMSFELD IF A PUBLIC APOLOGY TO THE KING OF JORDAN SUFFICIENT.
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| 01:16:31 991.74 |
CU DONALD RUMSFELD RESPONDS TO SENATOR BYRD'S ACCUSATIONS. SAYS THE STORY WAS NOT BROKEN BY THE MEDIA BUT BY THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE AND CENTRAL COMMAND IN BAGDAD AND DISCUSSES THE TIMELINE AND CHRONOLOGY OF THE INVESTIGATIONS.
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| 01:17:00 1020.74 |
CAMERA PANS OVER TABLE OF MILITARY LEADERSHIP WITH TIMELINE IN BACKGROUND
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| 01:17:18 1038.24 |
CU SHOT OF THE TIMELINE "CHRONOLOGY OF INVESTIGATIONS" AS RUMSFELD SPEAKS AND CU SENATOR BYRD ASKS ONCE AGAIN IF A PRESIDENTIAL APOLOGY TO THE KING OF JORDAN IS IN ORDER.
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CU DONALD RUMSFELD. THERE HAVE BEEN MANY APOLOGIES. RUMSFELD TURNS AND POINTS TO TIMELINE AND REPORT.
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CAMERA PANS IN AND OUT OVER TABLE OF MILITARY OFFICERS AS RUMSFELD CONTINUES TO TESTIFY.
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CU SENATOR BYRD HE CONTINUES ASKING RUMSFELD QUESTIONS.
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| 01:19:20 1160.31 |
CU DONALD RUMSFELD. THEY WILL PROVIDE THE COMMITTEE OF ALL REPORTS THEY HAVE ON A CONFIDENTIAL BASIS RESPECTFUL OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE OF THE RED CROSS' STIPULATIONS.
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| 01:19:59 1199.45 |
CU SENATOR BYRD STATES THE MATTER GOES DEEP AND INSISTS CONGRESS SHOULD HAVE THE REPORTS AND AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW WHATS IN THE REPORTS.
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MEDIUM SHOT OF SENATE COMMITTEE AND CAMERAMEN.
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CU SENATOR ALLARD. HE THANKS PANEL AND MILITARY FOR TESTIFYING AT AN OPEN HEARING. HE CONTINUES QUESTIONING DONALD RUMSFELD AND ASKS HIM ABOUT "COMMAND INFLUENCE". CAMERA GOES BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN RUMSFELD AND ALLARD.
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| 01:22:01 1321.65 |
CAMERA PAN THROUGH ROOM WITH MEDIA CAMERAMEN AND MILITARY PANEL, SENATE COMMITTEE IN BACKGROUND.
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| 01:22:06 1326.65 |
CU RUMSFELD SPEAKS ABOUT INTEGRITY AND THE RIGHTS OF DEFENDANTS
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| 01:23:35 1415.29 |
SENATOR ALLARD ASKS ABOUT THE SIX COURT MARTIALS AND IF THERE WILL BE ANYMORE OR IF ANYONE IN COMMAND WILL BE INDICTED. RUMSFELD RESPONDS THERE IS NO WAY TO ANTICIPATE IT BUT IF COURT MARTIAL OR INDICTMENTS ARE NECESSARY THEY WILL DO SO.
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| 01:24:46 1486.75 |
W/S OF TABLE WITH MILITARY PERSONNEL WITH TIMELINE DISPLAYED AT END OF TABLE.
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| 01:24:58 1498.94 |
CU RUMSFELD HE TALKS ABOUT GENERAL TAGUBA'S REPORT.
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| 01:25:33 1533.13 |
W/S TABLE WITH MILITARY PERSONNEL OTHERS IN BACKGROUND, CAMERMEN AND MEDIA ON FLOOR IN FRONT OF TABLE. CAMERA PANS ROOM CROWDED WITH PRESS SITTING ON FLOOR IN FRONT OF SENATE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
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CU SENATOR LEIBERMAN SPEAKS REGARDING APOLOGIES AND IS OUTRAGED. STATES WE MUST HONOR THE TROOPS AND NOT DISRESPECT OUR SOLDIERS. STATES WE MUST STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. STATES GENEVA CONVENTION IS THE LAW OF THE LAND WHEN IT COMES TO TREATMENT OF PRISONERS, DETAINEES AND COMBAT, AND HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED BY US ARMY REGULATION 190-8.
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| 01:29:01 1741.55 |
CU RUMSFELD RESPONDING TO SENATOR LEIBERMAN. ALL THOSE HELD IN IRAQ HAD THE RIGHTS UNDER THE GENEVA CONVENTION.
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| 01:31:38 1898.52 |
CU GENERAL RICHARD MYER, CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF, DISCUSSES TAGUBA REPORT.
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| 01:31:44 1904.67 |
WIDE SHOT OVER SENATE COMMITTEE. CAMERA SLOWLY PANS OUT
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C/U SENATOR JEFF SESSIONS. STRESSES WE MUST NOT DISCREDIT OR DISHONOR OUR SOLDIERS. THANKS RUMSFELD FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND SERVICE. CAMERA PANS SENATE COMMITTEE.
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MEDIUM SHOT OVER MILITARY LEADERSHIP TABLE. GENERAL MYERS POINTS TO TAGUBA TIMELINE REPORT AS CAMERA ZOOMS IN AND OUT AND GENERAL MYERS POINTS TO IT AND DISCUSSES,
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ANOTHER C/U OF TAGUBA TIMELINE REPORT AS GENERAL MYERS AND SENATOR SESSIONS CONTINUE TO DISCUSS.
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CAMERA PAN ROOM- MEDIA ON FLOOR IN FRONT OF SENATE COMMITTEE. CAMERA MOVES SLOWLY STOPPING FOR C/U SENATOR REED.
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C/U SENATOR REED. HE QUESTIONS RUMSFELD REGARDING POLICY OF MAJOR MILLER'S TEAM OF MILITARY POLICE OFFICERS ENABLING DETENTIONS FOR INTERROGATION.
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CU RUMSFELD RESPONDS TO REED'S QUESTION ABOUT POLICY OF ENABLING FOR INTERROGATIONS.
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C/U RUMSFELD RESPONDING THAT HE DID NOT RECALL THE POLICY OF ENABLING DETENTIONS FOR INTERROGATIONS COMING TO HIM FOR APPROVAL.
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| 01:40:27 2427.55 |
M/S TABLE OF MILITARY. STEVE CAMBONE, UNDER SECRETARY FOR INTELLIGENCE CENTER, STANDING, RESPONDS TO QUESTIONS BY REED.
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M/S TABLE OF MILITARY PERSONNEL, DONALD RUMSFELD ATTEMPTS TO CLEAR UP CONFUSION REGARDING "DETAINING" AND "INTERROGATING" AND THE DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITIES BETWEEN THE TWO. HOW THEY ARE DETAINED CAN AFFECT THE INTERROGATION PROCESS.
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| 01:43:12 2592.18 |
C/U FEMALE SENATOR SUSAN COLLINS SHE GRILLS RUMSFELD ABOUT THE ABUSE AND HOW ITS PERCEIVED AROUND THE WORLD. SHE ASKS RUMSFELD IF HE HAS PERSONAL REGRETS ABOUT NOT COMING FORWARD ABOUT WHAT HE KNEW AND THE ACTIONS HE INTENDED TO TAKE.
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| 01:45:54 2754.23 |
C/U RUMSFELD RESPONDS TO SENATOR COLLINS' STATEMENT. CONFUSED ABOUT HOW TO RESPOND TO HER QUESTION. THE PHOTOS WERE PART OF A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION AND THE INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS. THEY WERE WERE RELEASED TO THE PRESS ILLEGALLY. SHOCKING THE COUNTRY, BUT AN INVESTIGATION WAS GOING ON. AND THEY WERE TAKING QUICK CORRECTIVE ACTION.TO SUGGEST THEY DIDN'T TAKE ACTION IS MISPLACED.
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| 01:48:42 2922.46 |
C/U SENATOR COLLINS. STATES THE DISCLOSURE OF THE ABUSE AND PROMISE TO TAKE ACTIONS IS WHERE PENTAGON FELL SHORT. RATHER THAN DELAYING AIRING OF PHOTOS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO COME FORWARD AND TELL THE WORLD AND SET MATTERS RIGHT AND HOLD THOSE RESPONSIBLE ACCOUNTABLE BEFORE PHOTOS WERE RELEASED.
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C/U RUMSFELD RESPONDS TO SENATOR COLLINS REMARKS.
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W/S OF HEARING ROOM SENATE COMMITTEE, MEDIA AND MILITARY INTELLIGENCE. CAMERA PANS SLOWLY AROUND ROOM.
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| 01:51:04 3064.11 |
C/U SENATOR AKAKA ASKS RUMSFELD WHO IS IN CHARGE OF CIVILIAN CONTRACTORS. WHAT ARE THEIR ROLES AND WHO MONITORS THEM.
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C/U RUMSFELD ANSWERS SENATOR AKAKA'S QUESTIONS. 37 CIVILIAN CONTRACTORS AT THE FACILITY ARE SUPERVISED BY MILITARY INTELLIGENCE WHO ALSO HIRES THEM.
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C/U SENATOR AKAKA
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W/S SENATE COMMITTEE AND MEDIA SITTING ON FLOOR IN FRONT OF THEM WITH CAMERAS POINTED TOWARD TABLE OF MILITARY PERSONNEL.
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C/U MILITARY LEADERSHIP (?) ANSWERS AKAKA REGARDING ROLE OF CIVILIAN CONTRACTORS. MOST CONTRACTORS ARE RETIRED MILITARY AND HAVE NO SUPERVISORY RESPONSIBILITY.
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W/S SENATE COMMITTEE AND CAMERAMEN (MEDIA). CAMERA SLOWLY PANS THE ROOM STOPS AT TABLE OF MILITARY PERSONNEL.
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C/U GENERAL SMITH ADDS FURTHER DETAILS ON CIVILIAN CONTRACTORS
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| 01:53:24 3204.59 |
C/U SENATOR AKAKA ASKS RUMSFELD IF THERE ARE ALSO ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE BY THE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS AT THE FACILITY.
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C/U RUMSFELD. RESPONDS INVESTIGATIONS ONGOING TIME WILL TELL.
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| 01:54:15 3255.51 |
W/S OF TABLE OF MILITARY PERSONNEL, CAMERAS ON THE FLOOR, MEDIA MEMBER KNEELING IN BACKGROUND.
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| 01:54:23 3263.48 |
C/U GENERAL SMITH STATES THERE ARE TWO CONTRACTORS UNDER INVESTIGATION.
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| 01:54:32 3272.61 |
C/U SENATOR AKAKA. HE RECENTLY TRAVELEDTO IRAQ AND AFGANISTAN AND IS IMPRESSED AND PROUD OF OUR MILITARY. HE ASKS GENERAL MYERS REGARDING A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF BASIC LEGAL REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE 800 MP BRIGADE AND UNITS. THERE IS AN ISSUE OF AUTHORITY AT ABU GAHRIB. HE ASKS GENERAL MYERSWHY ARENT THEY TRAINED FOR THEIR MISSION?
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| 01:55:35 3335.83 |
C/U GENL MYERS. ABOUT TO ANSWER QUESTION BUT IS ASKED BY UNKNOWN SENATOR TO RESPOND BY RECORD INSTEAD.
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| 01:55:39 3339.54 |
PAN OF SENATE TABLE AND MEDIA. C/U SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM. FURTHER GRILLS RUMSFELD.
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C/U RUMSFELD ANSWERS QUESTIONS POSED BY SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM REGARDING ABUSE PHOTOS.
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C/U SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM. STATES THERE ARE MORE ABUSIVE DISTURBING PHOTOS TO COME. STRESSES THE CORRECT PEOPLE SHOULD BE PROSECUTED AND NO ONE SHOULD BE LET GO. HE ASKS GENERAL SMITH WHEN HE FIRST LEARNED OF THE EVENTS AND FIRST SAW THE ABUSE PHOTOS.
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W/S MILITARY PERSONNEL TABLE C/U GENERAL SMITH RESPONDS TO QUESTIONS SEEMINGLY EVADING THE REAL ANSWERS HE IS GRILLED BY SENATOR LINDSEY.
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C/U SENATOR LINDSEY. C/U GENERAL MYERS. LINDSEY GRILLS MYERS ABOUT TIMELINE OF WHEN HE FIRST SAW THE PHOTOS, WHO HE INFORMED ABOUT THEM AND WHEN, AND THE IMPACT THEY WOULD HAVE WHEM RELEASED BY CBS. LINDSEY INSINUATING MYERS KNEW THERE WAS A REAL STORY COMING OUT AND THE IMPACT THEY WOULD HAVE. CAMERA C/U'S LINDSEY AND MYERS CONTINUOUSLY AS QUESTIONS ARE GIVEN AND ANSWERED. MYERS IS ASKED TO SPEAK UP.
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