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HRN-1486
Toronto / Jesse James Press Conference
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B-Roll: Introducing Panel
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – Not completely what attracted me and I don’t even think it’s the main point of the story which Andrew can articulate much better than any of us up here but I do think it is an aspect of it certainly and um getting into it getting into the story I was surprised to see how much a tabloid quotient media was alive and well at that time still um operated by sensationalism and complete fabrication beyond the fact and it was curious to me to see that not much has changed besides quantity (Talks) well I you know the film picks up the last year of his life and um he was certainly coming from a place of great paranoia most of it justified and I would argue that that paranoia consumed him and certainly responsible for a lot of his erratic actions it’s also true to say while there is the Robin Hood to him which was based in truth and he did help perpetuate it’s also truth to say that he was a ruthless killer before much before the film starts
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
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I don’t see it as a retelling I understood it as a the myth we grew up with certainly in America in American folklore but I think Andrew can answer this best if I can pass it your way
Andrew – you know just the characters seemed really good and you know it was the book the book was beautiful it was really dense I liked the language the sense you got characters really struggling with themselves it seemed to have a lot of good scenes it was thematically rich you know the only thing it didn’t really have was a plot you know but other than that everything else you know everything else seemed to be in place you know
? – I think it’s about human behavior more than I think its about names and legends I think it makes great effort to suggest it’s not just a name or a legend there’s actually people behind those names and they have feelings and a big range of feelings and they’re fallible have desires and hopes and fears it felt real it felt timeless
Jules – for me what I knew nothing about was the relationship between Robert Ford and Jesse James that was something that was interesting for me to see and the dynamic that had gone on between the two of them and also the rest of the guys in the gang so I think that unlike some of the movies I’d seen I’d known about it but I hadn’t known that
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – funny enough it was close to the same location where I had shot ten years before a film called Legends of the Fall and we had a lot of the same crew a lot of the same wranglers and stunt men that I had worked with before so it was really nice to be reunited on that front but as you see we originally came here for Legends because it was one of the few places where you had beautifully expenses of country minus the telephone poles and now you can just digitally erase those coming back to the location really shapes the feeling of the film it’s as much a character as anything Casey and I do in the film it’s really nice to be back
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – well a lot of my family is still in Missouri but when I do get home and I do because I have to take the grand kids back my folks would kill me it’s mainly just spending time with the family but it’s a it’s a really gentle sweet place to reside in um as far as fame look I know the deal and I understand the tradeoff there are also great perks to what we do we get to travel and see the world and we manage it the only time it becomes unmanageable to me is when it’s a full frontal assault on the kids which unfortunately has become make a crazy face and the cameras go wild um and that’s the one that’s on the front page unfortunately there is no line concerning family these days and that concerns me this day and age that’s the only thing that really bother’s me
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Andrew – he’s the man who shot Jesse James (talks) well you know Casey would get real upset if you cut away his face you know (talks)
Casey – well oh I don’t know it’s a little bit French it’s you know a lot of it was I mean to answer this gentleman’s question I can’t really they put the camera on you and turn it on for the duration for the scene and how ever long they leave it on is up to Andrew so I had nothing to do with that um but you know to answer your question how to gauge those things wasn’t always easy and you know you kind of I guess it came through with a lot of conversation with Andrew about what the characters feel is he had a kind of not only thoroughly researched but a very kind of intuitive understanding for I think all the characters and um so I kind of relied on him as a kind of a guide sometimes and sometimes I’d have my own sense of what he’s feeling and you kind of just take it scene to scene I’m not really sure is that enough of a French answer I don’t know
Brad – you made a great point about the degree of difficulty for the roll and I hope that’s understood because it’s so complex and when Casey there’s a lot of us that have known Casey for many years and been big fans of him and known him to be much more than the parts he’s been able to play so we’re really happy to see him win this opportunity it was a coveted role working with Andrew and because it was such a big role and to see him score like this is really rewarding for all of us and I just think he did an amazing job and he’s gonna it’ll be nice to see what else he does
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – funny enough the microscope is really not on us I have to say a lot of it has nothing to do with has nothing to do with my actual life but it is true it’s in some ways you say well you’ve made this deal and that’s a part of it but on the other hand you really do not know what your getting into and because the focus of that time comes from the love for movies and wanting to be a part of movies and tell stories and be really good at it and that’s your focus and when this other thing comes a long it can be discombobulating but you acclimate
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – You want to talk about the locations
Andrew – look when you direct a movie you notice that it’s cold you know like when it got cold in Calgary you got to dress like an astronaut to go to work but you only notice it for like ten minutes or so you know and then you start working and your looking at the little screen and you forget everything I mean it was a great place to work Canada the crews were fantastic everyone was it was beautiful you got this thing where the sun takes like three hours to set you know you got great light at the end of the day and it was fantastic it wasn’t really challenging in that
Brad – yeah it’s something that’s just accepted it becomes part of the day part of the scene and um I guess to want to be in films at all you have to be a bit adventurous cause it’s part of the draw
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – if you haven’t seen Chopper well then you haven’t seen Chopper but you should see it it is mean streets good in my book
Andrew – you know no I didn’t have final cut but you know it’s such a weird movie idiosyncratic movie and it is what it is you know and there’s not much you can do to change it you know I mean there was the kind of usual squabbles that you have everyone feels really passionate about the film and everybody sitting here has given blood to the movie in one way or another and has been just unhealthily involved in it you know and you know it’s nice to be here and the film seems to be going over well and that’s great and you know like um I don’t know it was difficult it was a difficult film but I have to say I think that everybody has been supportive the studio gave us 30 plus million dollars to go and make a weird movie and that’s fantastic
Brad – and a lot of time to get it right was there luxury (talks) it wasn’t delayed a year
Andrew – basically you know the film was obviously not going to fall together in the ten weeks we had to cut the picture do you know what I’m saying it was a tough movie to cut it doesn’t have a plot it’s based on the emotional energies of each scene building the right way the performances are complex all you got is characters and you know you got to get that stuff balanced and it’s a fall movie your not gonna release it in summer you miss one fall you get the next one in the mean time there’s time to kink it but you know I mean there been stories about it being a troubled film and it being a train wreck and all that stuff and it’s only worked in our favor I think because the movie is a lot better than people were expecting or lead to believe
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Andrew – um it’s weird like I don’t really think human beings have changed at all in 2000 years um so you know the people in the story just feel really human to me like a I don’t see it as being irrelevant today it’s this unfortunate thing if something happened before 1980 it falls into this black hole of how people are gonna relate to it their gonna call each other dude and talk about being amped up you know taking things to the next level but you know to me the movie I don’t know does it really feel like a period film I guess the language is pretty fruity you don’t worry about it you know you just try and make a film that you’d like to see and hope other people would like it too
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – well it’s probably misleading as far as the genre as we understand it it’s probably better to say psychological drama or Andrews called it more of a gangster film at some time at some point um but you know it’s hard to come up with one category or path that I think accurately describes it so it’s all about a good trailer in my eyes
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director –
Brad – Ah no (talks) no I mean the nice thing for me which I was surprised by I didn’t realize that how much it would mean to me was doing something that related so much to the area where I grew up and every time I would I still see the Missouri crawl come up on the screen it quietly gives me a little pleasure it’s just nice to it’s just nice for me to have something that is just some kind of connection to the place that shaped me
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Brad – no no I hear stories of actors not being able to put away the role that’s never been my affliction I usually have more difficulty getting to the role and very happy to put it down when it’s done but the mercurial aspect of the characters what was most interesting to me this man that could see the end coming and I really relied on Andrew to keep the reigns on that and it paid off
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Andrew - well you know the narration was obviously gonna be there it’s the way the book was and you know it’s a tragedy we all know how it’s gonna end it’s just a question of how and I like narration from the point of view of you know providing a sense of you know it is written or a sense of fatalism and I also like the kind of fairy taleish quality that it gives to the story
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Brad – well this is well documented in the book this is the thing that historians argue over because there was two curiosities About this last time and that is the fact he gave the gun to his would be assassin and the very gun that would kill him days later and that he also took his gun belts off at the moment or what became the moment of his assassination which he never did so the two theories are one that he had full knowledge of what Robert Ford or the Ford brothers were capable of and were after and was taunting them and was going to take them out at a later time and it was a bad gamble and a gamble he lost the other argument is that he was unhinged he was weary of this life on the run and that it was actually a puppeteered suicide unconscious or conscious well it remains ambiguous and I couldn’t pretend to know it could go either way (talks) that’s a fair question I kind of played with both and then trusted Andrew to shape it as what played best I toyed with both versions Yeah yeah both versions that it could be either one take those takes didn’t get in the movie and these takes did
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Brad – these are things that don’t amount to anything on film other than just important to the actor little things that meant something to me that made it feel a bit authentic it’s silly maybe it’s even superstitious it’s sounds silly on the outside but for me it makes sense that’s all I can tell ya no no no
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Brad – I haven’t been jumped like that in some time I have to say um listen I don’t want to change my life because of paranoia it could point out that we can be very vulnerable in these situations and that there are a couple people out there who are maybe not playing with a full deck but I’m not changing a thing
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director –
Brad – I don’t know how to rate on I mean I wouldn’t even begin on how to rate on importance or but I was really surprised and remain surprised it’s not what I just didn’t expect it this has been a long road this film it was hard for us and a privilege to release it in this great city and I have friends who are also unleashing their films in this city and it was just a really nice time for us so listen to have this happen you know I could try to play it down but it’s great fun it’s really fun and (talks) I had a golden globe like a decade ago maybe but it’s never the focus I really believe in how do you personally feel at the end of the day have you given your best and what’s the quality of the film but at the same time we all have our jobs and we all want to um be really good at it and to have this kind of acknowledgement is a real honor I hope everyone gets to experience it the what’s interesting about it all is how excited my friends are for me and including these guys here and on the inside and be a part the last thing I would add to that just to be a part of lineage be amongst the lineage of people who have also been bestowed this honor it’s really a nice honor (talks) I don’t even play that game
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director –
Brad – I’m gonna give that one to Andrew
Andrew – Oh me I’m gonna answer this one I don’t know they’re fun to watch you know I don’t know (talks) well I don’t know I don’t consider Jesse James to be a psychopathic serial killer I consider him to be a person who’s like a you know he’s got some problems but you know he seems a lot more well rounded than that and there’s all kinds of different portrayal’s of the violent in movies the psychopathic serial killer’s a popular one because they like the evil aspect aliens that intrude upon our world and we don’t have to accept any responsibility for them they’re like these you know you know like vampires or something you know I think um you know it’s drama and drama requires conflict and it requires people to do things like you know I think Jesse is a character you can have a multitude of feelings about he’s somebody that you can be frightened of and also have real feelings of empathy for and I like that I like to have feelings for people I watch on screen I don’t know I guess it’s a personal thing
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director –
Brad – the four and a half hour version
Andrew – you’ll never see a four and a half hour version I mean it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world to see a longer version of the picture I’m not sure it would I’m not sure if it would be any better than this one (talks)
Casey – not really I didn’t see too many versions of this I kind of saw one it was only slightly different and you know you just have to kind of trust that the person that conceived the thing and labored over it and brought it to life is going to make the best decision about what belongs in the movie and what doesn’t it’s really hard to look at something especially if you just sitting down one time look at it and say wow this should have been gone this other thing should have been in I mean how many times have you sat you write your article and you think it’s good you come back the next day and you go god damnit this thing sucks it would be hubris for me to sit here and say that I know any better or something doesn’t belong in the there are things that I but I do there are scenes that I liked but they
Andrew – there’s stuff we’ve all been sorry to see go
Brad – yeah on it’s own but at the same time if it doesn’t help the overall piece then it’s got to go
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director –
Brad – the preparations were really all the same whether it be comedy or this or anything else um you know it comes with research and study and you start to find you start to narrow in on an idea and gets tried out and it really gets shaped in the first few weeks through trial and error what’s feeling right what’s feeling wrong but I had a really nice advantage as I say being from the same area so the cadence and the temper of how people relate there at least what I understand today what I drew from and a dialect I drew from I was comfortable with horses did a little quick draw and I was ready to go
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Brad – I really don’t know enough about it to comment it requires much more study before I can make an informed comment on that
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Nop no the departure was something we developed and we developed for a couple of years and when Marty came on I mean Marty doesn’t need our help so we were happy to turn it over and that’s when Graham King came in and helped with the production post production and to be eligible you have to be involved in the pre-production production and post-production that’s how that functions that’s the rules and the rules are the rules so fair play we were happy just to be a part of it (talks) yeah well this is still coming from the same thing that got me into it and that’s a love for film and a love for stories and the belief that stories can educate and the belief that stories can strictly entertain and just be a part of those stories that I wouldn’t necessarily be right we had a very D.D. and I had a very simple edict and that was story teller and the story and protect that so a lot of producing is at least from my point D.D. does a lot of the heavy lifting and a couple of others that work with us from my point it’s really about getting out of the way make sure the director has room to go where he needs to go but it’s also more than that it’s being a buffer between the artistic side and the financial side and helping the two get a long and the most important thing I would say from what little experience that I’ve had is that it’s quality control a film can be told a hundred different ways and there’s two hundred different ways it can be told badly so that even make sense hundred different ways two hundred it sounded good and so it’s really about quality control from first inception conception and um and till this moment now it being released
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director –
Brad – it just immediately makes you laugh doesn’t it (talks) yeah he’s gonna take me out um what was the one he did red surf go see it wait wait (talks)
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Andrew – you know Edmonton park is not there’s not a million places like that you know living village from the late 1800’s nor is there one where the sun rises on this side of the street and just back lights the windows all day so we felt pretty thrilled when we found it it was fantastic (talks) well if we make another movie in the 19th century we’ll certainly be back
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Casey – well I don’t think my son sees me on T.V. all that much sure he doesn’t watch T.V. he doesn’t know that much about it so I’m gonna just dodge this question
Brad – you know it all remains to be seen but I would definitely recommend a maturity you know post 18 before you got into this thing because it can be very discombobulating and yeah
Casey – listen it gets a bad wrap but there’s a lot of interesting creative people that your pretty lucky to be in this profession where you spend all your time thinking about like stories and working with very super talented fun nice people so it’s not that bad
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Brad – yeah in fact I rely on it I’m she’s the best sounding board I have and I value her opinion immensely it pisses me off sometimes but but she’s good she’s really she loves the film
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Brad – to change something on me I really I don’t spend any time on that I would rather go the other way and accept exactly who you are take it from there (talks) in this film it was more overall keeping the reigns on this mercurial character I said earlier but then again I had Andrew in really good hands we had a night scene that was a really beautiful scene that I found quite difficult it’s not in the film so there’s no use to talk about it but I don’t have anything for you really
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director
Brad – I actually did one animation with that in mind but I think that’s actually more confusing for the kids but your that sounds like but I’d rather keep it separate rather them just enjoy their cartoons with out any more confusion in their lives
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Brad – I mean I love this kind of film this kind of film breaths and allows for human moments it’s my favorite kind of story telling it’s what lead me to Andrew but I like all film and there’s room for all film and there’s need for all film so I wouldn’t distinguish one or other I’d probably hit the wall if I just focused on one aspect of story telling
Toronto / Jesse James Press Conference
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In:00.00.01 Out: 00.01.23
B-Roll: Introducing Panel
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – Not completely what attracted me and I don’t even think it’s the main point of the story which Andrew can articulate much better than any of us up here but I do think it is an aspect of it certainly and um getting into it getting into the story I was surprised to see how much a tabloid quotient media was alive and well at that time still um operated by sensationalism and complete fabrication beyond the fact and it was curious to me to see that not much has changed besides quantity (Talks) well I you know the film picks up the last year of his life and um he was certainly coming from a place of great paranoia most of it justified and I would argue that that paranoia consumed him and certainly responsible for a lot of his erratic actions it’s also true to say while there is the Robin Hood to him which was based in truth and he did help perpetuate it’s also truth to say that he was a ruthless killer before much before the film starts
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
I don’t see it as a retelling I understood it as a the myth we grew up with certainly in America in American folklore but I think Andrew can answer this best if I can pass it your way
Andrew – you know just the characters seemed really good and you know it was the book the book was beautiful it was really dense I liked the language the sense you got characters really struggling with themselves it seemed to have a lot of good scenes it was thematically rich you know the only thing it didn’t really have was a plot you know but other than that everything else you know everything else seemed to be in place you know
? – I think it’s about human behavior more than I think its about names and legends I think it makes great effort to suggest it’s not just a name or a legend there’s actually people behind those names and they have feelings and a big range of feelings and they’re fallible have desires and hopes and fears it felt real it felt timeless
Jules – for me what I knew nothing about was the relationship between Robert Ford and Jesse James that was something that was interesting for me to see and the dynamic that had gone on between the two of them and also the rest of the guys in the gang so I think that unlike some of the movies I’d seen I’d known about it but I hadn’t known that
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – funny enough it was close to the same location where I had shot ten years before a film called Legends of the Fall and we had a lot of the same crew a lot of the same wranglers and stunt men that I had worked with before so it was really nice to be reunited on that front but as you see we originally came here for Legends because it was one of the few places where you had beautifully expenses of country minus the telephone poles and now you can just digitally erase those coming back to the location really shapes the feeling of the film it’s as much a character as anything Casey and I do in the film it’s really nice to be back
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – well a lot of my family is still in Missouri but when I do get home and I do because I have to take the grand kids back my folks would kill me it’s mainly just spending time with the family but it’s a it’s a really gentle sweet place to reside in um as far as fame look I know the deal and I understand the tradeoff there are also great perks to what we do we get to travel and see the world and we manage it the only time it becomes unmanageable to me is when it’s a full frontal assault on the kids which unfortunately has become make a crazy face and the cameras go wild um and that’s the one that’s on the front page unfortunately there is no line concerning family these days and that concerns me this day and age that’s the only thing that really bother’s me
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Andrew – he’s the man who shot Jesse James (talks) well you know Casey would get real upset if you cut away his face you know (talks)
Casey – well oh I don’t know it’s a little bit French it’s you know a lot of it was I mean to answer this gentleman’s question I can’t really they put the camera on you and turn it on for the duration for the scene and how ever long they leave it on is up to Andrew so I had nothing to do with that um but you know to answer your question how to gauge those things wasn’t always easy and you know you kind of I guess it came through with a lot of conversation with Andrew about what the characters feel is he had a kind of not only thoroughly researched but a very kind of intuitive understanding for I think all the characters and um so I kind of relied on him as a kind of a guide sometimes and sometimes I’d have my own sense of what he’s feeling and you kind of just take it scene to scene I’m not really sure is that enough of a French answer I don’t know
Brad – you made a great point about the degree of difficulty for the roll and I hope that’s understood because it’s so complex and when Casey there’s a lot of us that have known Casey for many years and been big fans of him and known him to be much more than the parts he’s been able to play so we’re really happy to see him win this opportunity it was a coveted role working with Andrew and because it was such a big role and to see him score like this is really rewarding for all of us and I just think he did an amazing job and he’s gonna it’ll be nice to see what else he does
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Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – funny enough the microscope is really not on us I have to say a lot of it has nothing to do with has nothing to do with my actual life but it is true it’s in some ways you say well you’ve made this deal and that’s a part of it but on the other hand you really do not know what your getting into and because the focus of that time comes from the love for movies and wanting to be a part of movies and tell stories and be really good at it and that’s your focus and when this other thing comes a long it can be discombobulating but you acclimate
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Brad – You want to talk about the locations
Andrew – look when you direct a movie you notice that it’s cold you know like when it got cold in Calgary you got to dress like an astronaut to go to work but you only notice it for like ten minutes or so you know and then you start working and your looking at the little screen and you forget everything I mean it was a great place to work Canada the crews were fantastic everyone was it was beautiful you got this thing where the sun takes like three hours to set you know you got great light at the end of the day and it was fantastic it wasn’t really challenging in that
Brad – yeah it’s something that’s just accepted it becomes part of the day part of the scene and um I guess to want to be in films at all you have to be a bit adventurous cause it’s part of the draw
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Brad – if you haven’t seen Chopper well then you haven’t seen Chopper but you should see it it is mean streets good in my book
Andrew – you know no I didn’t have final cut but you know it’s such a weird movie idiosyncratic movie and it is what it is you know and there’s not much you can do to change it you know I mean there was the kind of usual squabbles that you have everyone feels really passionate about the film and everybody sitting here has given blood to the movie in one way or another and has been just unhealthily involved in it you know and you know it’s nice to be here and the film seems to be going over well and that’s great and you know like um I don’t know it was difficult it was a difficult film but I have to say I think that everybody has been supportive the studio gave us 30 plus million dollars to go and make a weird movie and that’s fantastic
Brad – and a lot of time to get it right was there luxury (talks) it wasn’t delayed a year
Andrew – basically you know the film was obviously not going to fall together in the ten weeks we had to cut the picture do you know what I’m saying it was a tough movie to cut it doesn’t have a plot it’s based on the emotional energies of each scene building the right way the performances are complex all you got is characters and you know you got to get that stuff balanced and it’s a fall movie your not gonna release it in summer you miss one fall you get the next one in the mean time there’s time to kink it but you know I mean there been stories about it being a troubled film and it being a train wreck and all that stuff and it’s only worked in our favor I think because the movie is a lot better than people were expecting or lead to believe
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Andrew – um it’s weird like I don’t really think human beings have changed at all in 2000 years um so you know the people in the story just feel really human to me like a I don’t see it as being irrelevant today it’s this unfortunate thing if something happened before 1980 it falls into this black hole of how people are gonna relate to it their gonna call each other dude and talk about being amped up you know taking things to the next level but you know to me the movie I don’t know does it really feel like a period film I guess the language is pretty fruity you don’t worry about it you know you just try and make a film that you’d like to see and hope other people would like it too
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Brad – well it’s probably misleading as far as the genre as we understand it it’s probably better to say psychological drama or Andrews called it more of a gangster film at some time at some point um but you know it’s hard to come up with one category or path that I think accurately describes it so it’s all about a good trailer in my eyes
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Brad – Ah no (talks) no I mean the nice thing for me which I was surprised by I didn’t realize that how much it would mean to me was doing something that related so much to the area where I grew up and every time I would I still see the Missouri crawl come up on the screen it quietly gives me a little pleasure it’s just nice to it’s just nice for me to have something that is just some kind of connection to the place that shaped me
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Brad – no no I hear stories of actors not being able to put away the role that’s never been my affliction I usually have more difficulty getting to the role and very happy to put it down when it’s done but the mercurial aspect of the characters what was most interesting to me this man that could see the end coming and I really relied on Andrew to keep the reigns on that and it paid off
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Andrew - well you know the narration was obviously gonna be there it’s the way the book was and you know it’s a tragedy we all know how it’s gonna end it’s just a question of how and I like narration from the point of view of you know providing a sense of you know it is written or a sense of fatalism and I also like the kind of fairy taleish quality that it gives to the story
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Brad – well this is well documented in the book this is the thing that historians argue over because there was two curiosities About this last time and that is the fact he gave the gun to his would be assassin and the very gun that would kill him days later and that he also took his gun belts off at the moment or what became the moment of his assassination which he never did so the two theories are one that he had full knowledge of what Robert Ford or the Ford brothers were capable of and were after and was taunting them and was going to take them out at a later time and it was a bad gamble and a gamble he lost the other argument is that he was unhinged he was weary of this life on the run and that it was actually a puppeteered suicide unconscious or conscious well it remains ambiguous and I couldn’t pretend to know it could go either way (talks) that’s a fair question I kind of played with both and then trusted Andrew to shape it as what played best I toyed with both versions Yeah yeah both versions that it could be either one take those takes didn’t get in the movie and these takes did
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Brad – these are things that don’t amount to anything on film other than just important to the actor little things that meant something to me that made it feel a bit authentic it’s silly maybe it’s even superstitious it’s sounds silly on the outside but for me it makes sense that’s all I can tell ya no no no
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Brad – I haven’t been jumped like that in some time I have to say um listen I don’t want to change my life because of paranoia it could point out that we can be very vulnerable in these situations and that there are a couple people out there who are maybe not playing with a full deck but I’m not changing a thing
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Brad – I don’t know how to rate on I mean I wouldn’t even begin on how to rate on importance or but I was really surprised and remain surprised it’s not what I just didn’t expect it this has been a long road this film it was hard for us and a privilege to release it in this great city and I have friends who are also unleashing their films in this city and it was just a really nice time for us so listen to have this happen you know I could try to play it down but it’s great fun it’s really fun and (talks) I had a golden globe like a decade ago maybe but it’s never the focus I really believe in how do you personally feel at the end of the day have you given your best and what’s the quality of the film but at the same time we all have our jobs and we all want to um be really good at it and to have this kind of acknowledgement is a real honor I hope everyone gets to experience it the what’s interesting about it all is how excited my friends are for me and including these guys here and on the inside and be a part the last thing I would add to that just to be a part of lineage be amongst the lineage of people who have also been bestowed this honor it’s really a nice honor (talks) I don’t even play that game
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Brad – I’m gonna give that one to Andrew
Andrew – Oh me I’m gonna answer this one I don’t know they’re fun to watch you know I don’t know (talks) well I don’t know I don’t consider Jesse James to be a psychopathic serial killer I consider him to be a person who’s like a you know he’s got some problems but you know he seems a lot more well rounded than that and there’s all kinds of different portrayal’s of the violent in movies the psychopathic serial killer’s a popular one because they like the evil aspect aliens that intrude upon our world and we don’t have to accept any responsibility for them they’re like these you know you know like vampires or something you know I think um you know it’s drama and drama requires conflict and it requires people to do things like you know I think Jesse is a character you can have a multitude of feelings about he’s somebody that you can be frightened of and also have real feelings of empathy for and I like that I like to have feelings for people I watch on screen I don’t know I guess it’s a personal thing
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Brad – the four and a half hour version
Andrew – you’ll never see a four and a half hour version I mean it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world to see a longer version of the picture I’m not sure it would I’m not sure if it would be any better than this one (talks)
Casey – not really I didn’t see too many versions of this I kind of saw one it was only slightly different and you know you just have to kind of trust that the person that conceived the thing and labored over it and brought it to life is going to make the best decision about what belongs in the movie and what doesn’t it’s really hard to look at something especially if you just sitting down one time look at it and say wow this should have been gone this other thing should have been in I mean how many times have you sat you write your article and you think it’s good you come back the next day and you go god damnit this thing sucks it would be hubris for me to sit here and say that I know any better or something doesn’t belong in the there are things that I but I do there are scenes that I liked but they
Andrew – there’s stuff we’ve all been sorry to see go
Brad – yeah on it’s own but at the same time if it doesn’t help the overall piece then it’s got to go
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Brad – the preparations were really all the same whether it be comedy or this or anything else um you know it comes with research and study and you start to find you start to narrow in on an idea and gets tried out and it really gets shaped in the first few weeks through trial and error what’s feeling right what’s feeling wrong but I had a really nice advantage as I say being from the same area so the cadence and the temper of how people relate there at least what I understand today what I drew from and a dialect I drew from I was comfortable with horses did a little quick draw and I was ready to go
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Brad – I really don’t know enough about it to comment it requires much more study before I can make an informed comment on that
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Nop no the departure was something we developed and we developed for a couple of years and when Marty came on I mean Marty doesn’t need our help so we were happy to turn it over and that’s when Graham King came in and helped with the production post production and to be eligible you have to be involved in the pre-production production and post-production that’s how that functions that’s the rules and the rules are the rules so fair play we were happy just to be a part of it (talks) yeah well this is still coming from the same thing that got me into it and that’s a love for film and a love for stories and the belief that stories can educate and the belief that stories can strictly entertain and just be a part of those stories that I wouldn’t necessarily be right we had a very D.D. and I had a very simple edict and that was story teller and the story and protect that so a lot of producing is at least from my point D.D. does a lot of the heavy lifting and a couple of others that work with us from my point it’s really about getting out of the way make sure the director has room to go where he needs to go but it’s also more than that it’s being a buffer between the artistic side and the financial side and helping the two get a long and the most important thing I would say from what little experience that I’ve had is that it’s quality control a film can be told a hundred different ways and there’s two hundred different ways it can be told badly so that even make sense hundred different ways two hundred it sounded good and so it’s really about quality control from first inception conception and um and till this moment now it being released
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Brad – it just immediately makes you laugh doesn’t it (talks) yeah he’s gonna take me out um what was the one he did red surf go see it wait wait (talks)
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Andrew – you know Edmonton park is not there’s not a million places like that you know living village from the late 1800’s nor is there one where the sun rises on this side of the street and just back lights the windows all day so we felt pretty thrilled when we found it it was fantastic (talks) well if we make another movie in the 19th century we’ll certainly be back
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Casey – well I don’t think my son sees me on T.V. all that much sure he doesn’t watch T.V. he doesn’t know that much about it so I’m gonna just dodge this question
Brad – you know it all remains to be seen but I would definitely recommend a maturity you know post 18 before you got into this thing because it can be very discombobulating and yeah
Casey – listen it gets a bad wrap but there’s a lot of interesting creative people that your pretty lucky to be in this profession where you spend all your time thinking about like stories and working with very super talented fun nice people so it’s not that bad
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Brad – yeah in fact I rely on it I’m she’s the best sounding board I have and I value her opinion immensely it pisses me off sometimes but but she’s good she’s really she loves the film
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Brad – to change something on me I really I don’t spend any time on that I would rather go the other way and accept exactly who you are take it from there (talks) in this film it was more overall keeping the reigns on this mercurial character I said earlier but then again I had Andrew in really good hands we had a night scene that was a really beautiful scene that I found quite difficult it’s not in the film so there’s no use to talk about it but I don’t have anything for you really
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Brad – I actually did one animation with that in mind but I think that’s actually more confusing for the kids but your that sounds like but I’d rather keep it separate rather them just enjoy their cartoons with out any more confusion in their lives
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Brad – I mean I love this kind of film this kind of film breaths and allows for human moments it’s my favorite kind of story telling it’s what lead me to Andrew but I like all film and there’s room for all film and there’s need for all film so I wouldn’t distinguish one or other I’d probably hit the wall if I just focused on one aspect of story telling
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B-Roll: Introducing Panel
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| 00:01:25 81.9 |
Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – Not completely what attracted me and I don’t even think it’s the main point of the story which Andrew can articulate much better than any of us up here but I do think it is an aspect of it certainly and um getting into it getting into the story I was surprised to see how much a tabloid quotient media was alive and well at that time still um operated by sensationalism and complete fabrication beyond the fact and it was curious to me to see that not much has changed besides quantity (Talks) well I you know the film picks up the last year of his life and um he was certainly coming from a place of great paranoia most of it justified and I would argue that that paranoia consumed him and certainly responsible for a lot of his erratic actions it’s also true to say while there is the Robin Hood to him which was based in truth and he did help perpetuate it’s also truth to say that he was a ruthless killer before much before the film starts |
| 00:03:03 179.9 |
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I don’t see it as a retelling I understood it as a the myth we grew up with certainly in America in American folklore but I think Andrew can answer this best if I can pass it your way Andrew – you know just the characters seemed really good and you know it was the book the book was beautiful it was really dense I liked the language the sense you got characters really struggling with themselves it seemed to have a lot of good scenes it was thematically rich you know the only thing it didn’t really have was a plot you know but other than that everything else you know everything else seemed to be in place you know ? – I think it’s about human behavior more than I think its about names and legends I think it makes great effort to suggest it’s not just a name or a legend there’s actually people behind those names and they have feelings and a big range of feelings and they’re fallible have desires and hopes and fears it felt real it felt timeless Jules – for me what I knew nothing about was the relationship between Robert Ford and Jesse James that was something that was interesting for me to see and the dynamic that had gone on between the two of them and also the rest of the guys in the gang so I think that unlike some of the movies I’d seen I’d known about it but I hadn’t known that |
| 00:04:58 294.9 |
Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – funny enough it was close to the same location where I had shot ten years before a film called Legends of the Fall and we had a lot of the same crew a lot of the same wranglers and stunt men that I had worked with before so it was really nice to be reunited on that front but as you see we originally came here for Legends because it was one of the few places where you had beautifully expenses of country minus the telephone poles and now you can just digitally erase those coming back to the location really shapes the feeling of the film it’s as much a character as anything Casey and I do in the film it’s really nice to be back |
| 00:06:08 364.9 |
Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – well a lot of my family is still in Missouri but when I do get home and I do because I have to take the grand kids back my folks would kill me it’s mainly just spending time with the family but it’s a it’s a really gentle sweet place to reside in um as far as fame look I know the deal and I understand the tradeoff there are also great perks to what we do we get to travel and see the world and we manage it the only time it becomes unmanageable to me is when it’s a full frontal assault on the kids which unfortunately has become make a crazy face and the cameras go wild um and that’s the one that’s on the front page unfortunately there is no line concerning family these days and that concerns me this day and age that’s the only thing that really bother’s me |
| 00:07:42 458.9 |
Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Andrew – he’s the man who shot Jesse James (talks) well you know Casey would get real upset if you cut away his face you know (talks) Casey – well oh I don’t know it’s a little bit French it’s you know a lot of it was I mean to answer this gentleman’s question I can’t really they put the camera on you and turn it on for the duration for the scene and how ever long they leave it on is up to Andrew so I had nothing to do with that um but you know to answer your question how to gauge those things wasn’t always easy and you know you kind of I guess it came through with a lot of conversation with Andrew about what the characters feel is he had a kind of not only thoroughly researched but a very kind of intuitive understanding for I think all the characters and um so I kind of relied on him as a kind of a guide sometimes and sometimes I’d have my own sense of what he’s feeling and you kind of just take it scene to scene I’m not really sure is that enough of a French answer I don’t know Brad – you made a great point about the degree of difficulty for the roll and I hope that’s understood because it’s so complex and when Casey there’s a lot of us that have know casey for many years and been big fans of him and known him to be much more than the parts he’s been able to play so we’re really happy to see him win this opportunity it was a coveted role working with Andrew and because it was such a big role and to see him score like this is really rewarding for all of us and I just think he did an amazing job and he’s gonna it’ll be nice to see what else he does |
| 00:11:13 669.9 |
Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – funny enough the microscope is really not on us I have to say a lot of it has nothing to do with has nothing to do with my actual life but it is true it’s in some ways you say well you’ve made this deal and that’s a part of it but on the other hand you really do not know what your getting into and because the focus of that time comes from the love for movies and wanting to be a part of movies and tell stories and be really good at it and that’s your focus and when this other thing comes a long it can be discombobulating but you acclimate |
| 00:12:33 749.9 |
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Brad – You want to talk about the locations Andrew – look when you direct a movie you notice that it’s cold you know like when it got cold in Calgary you got to dress like an astronaut to go to work but you only notice it for like ten minutes or so you know and then you start working and your looking at the little screen and you forget everything I mean it was a great place to work Canada the crews were fantastic everyone was it was beautiful you got this thing where the sun takes like three hours to set you know you got great light at the end of the day and it was fantastic it wasn’t really challenging in that Brad – yeah it’s something that’s just accepted it becomes part of the day part of the scene and um I guess to want to be in films at all you have to be a bit adventurous cause it’s part of the draw |
| 00:13:55 831.9 |
Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director -
Brad – if you haven’t seen Chopper well then you haven’t seen Chopper but you should see it it is mean streets good in my book Andrew – you know no I didn’t have final cut but you know it’s such a weird movie idiosyncratic movie and it is what it is you know and there’s not much you can do to change it you know I mean there was the kind of usual squabbles that you have everyone feels really passionate about the film and everybody sitting here has given blood to the movie in one way or another and has been just unhealthily involved in it you know and you know it’s nice to be here and the film seems to be going over well and that’s great and you know like um I don’t know it was difficult it was a difficult film but I have to say I think that everybody has been supportive the studio gave us 30 plus million dollars to go and make a weird movie and that’s fantastic Brad – and a lot of time to get it right was there luxury (talks) it wasn’t delayed a year Andrew – basically you know the film was obviously not going to fall together in the ten weeks we had to cut the picture do you know what I’m saying it was a tough movie to cut it doesn’t have a plot it’s based on the emotional energies of each scene building the right way the performances are complex all you got is characters and you know you got to get that stuff balanced and it’s a fall movie your not gonna release it in summer you miss one fall you get the next one in the mean time there’s time to kink it but you know I mean there been stories about it being a troubled film and it being a train wreck and all that stuff and it’s only worked in our favor I think because the movie is a lot better than people were expecting or lead to believe |
| 00:16:13 969.9 |
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Andrew – um it’s weird like I don’t really think human beings have changed at all in 2000 years um so you know the people in the story just feel really human to me like a I don’t see it as being irrelevant today it’s this unfortunate thing if something happened before 1980 it falls into this black hole of how people are gonna relate to it their gonna call each other dude and talk about being amped up you know taking things to the next level but you know to me the movie I don’t know does it really feel like a period film I guess the language is pretty fruity you don’t worry about it you know you just try and make a film that you’d like to see and hope other people would like it too |
| 00:17:23 1039.9 |
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Brad – well it’s probably misleading as far as the genre as we understand it it’s probably better to say psychological drama or Andrews called it more of a gangster film at some time at some point um but you know it’s hard to come up with one category or path that I think accurately describes it so it’s all about a good trailer in my eyes |
| 00:18:23 1099.9 |
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Brad – Ah no (talks) no I mean the nice thing for me which I was surprised by I didn’t realize that how much it would mean to me was doing something that related so much to the area where I grew up and every time I would I still see the Missouri crawl come up on the screen it quietly gives me a little pleasure it’s just nice to it’s just nice for me to have something that is just some kind of connection to the place that shaped me |
| 00:20:30 1226.9 |
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Andrew - well you know the narration was obviously gonna be there it’s the way the book was and you know it’s a tragedy we all know how it’s gonna end it’s just a question of how and I like narration from the point of view of you know providing a sense of you know it is written or a sense of fatalism and I also like the kind of fairy taleish quality that it gives to the story |
| 00:21:18 1274.9 |
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Brad – well this is well documented in the book this is the thing that historians argue over because there was two curiosities About this last time and that is the fact he gave the gun to his would be assassin and the very gun that would kill him days later and that he also took his gun belts off at the moment or what became the moment of his assassination which he never did so the two theories are one that he had full knowledge of what Robert Ford or the Ford brothers were capable of and were after and was taunting them and was going to take them out at a later time and it was a bad gamble and a gamble he lost the other argument is that he was unhinged he was weary of this life on the run and that it was actually a puppeteered suicide unconscious or conscious well it remains ambiguous and I couldn’t pretend to know it could go either way (talks) that’s a fair question I kind of played with both and then trusted Andrew to shape it as what played best I toyed with both versions Yeah yeah both versions that it could be either one take those takes didn’t get in the movie and these takes did |
| 00:23:23 1399.9 |
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Brad – these are things that don’t amount to anything on film other than just important to the actor little things that meant something to me that made it feel a bit authentic it’s silly maybe it’s even superstitious it’s sounds silly on the outside but for me it makes sense that’s all I can tell ya no no no |
| 00:24:07 1443.9 |
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Brad – I haven’t been jumped like that in some time I have to say um listen I don’t want to change my life because of paranoia it could point out that we can be very vulnerable in these situations and that there are a couple people out there who are maybe not playing with a full deck but I’m not changing a thing |
| 00:25:03 1499.9 |
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Brad – I don’t know how to rate on I mean I wouldn’t even begin on how to rate on importance or but I was really surprised and remain surprised it’s not what I just didn’t expect it this has been a long road this film it was hard for us and a privilege to release it in this great city and I have friends who are also unleashing their films in this city and it was just a really nice time for us so listen to have this happen you know I could try to play it down but it’s great fun it’s really fun and (talks) I had a golden globe like a decade ago maybe but it’s never the focus I really believe in how do you personally feel at the end of the day have you given your best and what’s the quality of the film but at the same time we all have our jobs and we all want to um be really good at it and to have this kind of acknowledgement is a real honor I hope everyone gets to experience it the what’s interesting about it all is how excited my friends are for me and including these guys here and on the inside and be a part the last thing I would add to that just to be a part of lineage be amongst the lineage of people who have also been bestowed this honor it’s really a nice honor (talks) I don’t even play that game |
| 00:27:25 1641.9 |
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Brad – I’m gonna give that one to Andrew Andrew – Oh me I’m gonna answer this one I don’t know they’re fun to watch you know I don’t know (talks) well I don’t know I don’t consider Jesse James to be a psychopathic serial killer I consider him to be a person who’s like a you know he’s got some problems but you know he seems a lot more well rounded than that and there’s all kinds of different portrayal’s of the violent in movies the psychopathic serial killer’s a popular one because they like the evil aspect aliens that intrude upon our world and we don’t have to accept any responsibility for them they’re like these you know you know like vampires or something you know I think um you know it’s drama and drama requires conflict and it requires people to do things like you know I think Jesse is a character you can have a multitude of feelings about he’s somebody that you can be frightened of and also have real feelings of empathy for and I like that I like to have feelings for people I watch on screen I don’t know I guess it’s a personal thing |
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Brad – the four and a half hour version Andrew – you’ll never see a four and a half hour version I mean it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world to see a longer version of the picture I’m not sure it would I’m not sure if it would be any better than this one (talks) Casey – not really I didn’t see too many versions of this I kind of saw one it was only slightly different and you know you just have to kind of trust that the person that conceived the thing and labored over it and brought it to life is going to make the best decision about what belongs in the movie and what doesn’t it’s really hard to look at something especially if you just sitting down one time look at it and say wow this should have been gone this other thing should have been in I mean how many times have you sat you write your article and you think it’s good you come back the next day and you go god damnit this thing sucks it would be hubris for me to sit here and say that I know any better or something doesn’t belong in the there are things that I but I do there are scenes that I liked but they Andrew – there’s stuff we’ve all been sorry to see go Brad – yeah on it’s own but at the same time if it doesn’t help the overall piece then it’s got to go |
| 00:31:08 1864.9 |
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Brad – the preparations were really all the same whether it be comedy or this or anything else um you know it comes with research and study and you start to find you start to narrow in on an idea and gets tried out and it really gets shaped in the first few weeks through trial and error what’s feeling right what’s feeling wrong but I had a really nice advantage as I say being from the same area so the cadence and the temper of how people relate there atleast what I understand today what I drew from and a dialect I drew from I was comfortable with horses did a little quick draw and I was ready to go |
| 00:32:23 1939.9 |
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Brad – I really don’t know enough about it to comment it requires much more study before I can make an informed comment on that |
| 00:32:53 1969.9 |
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Nop no the departure was something we developed and we developed for a couple of years and when Marty came on I mean Marty doesn’t need our help so we were happy to turn it over and that’s when Grahm King came in and helped with the production post production and to be eligible you have to be involved in the pre-production production and post-production that’s how that functions that’s the rules and the rules are the rules so fair play we were happy just to be a part of it (talks) yeah well this is still coming from the same thing that got me into it and that’s a love for film and a love for stories and the belief that stories can educate and the belief that stories can strictly entertain and just be a part of those stories that I wouldn’t necessarily be right we had a very D.D. and I had a very simple edict and that was story teller and the story and protect that so a lot of producing is atleast from my point D.D. does a lot of the heavy lifting and a couple of others that work with us from my point it’s really about getting out of the way make sure the director has room to go where he needs to go but it’s also more than that it’s being a buffer between the artistic side and the financial side and helping the two get a long and the most important thing I would say from what little experience that I’ve had is that it’s quality control a film can be told a hundred different ways and there’s two hundred different ways it can be told badly so that even make sense hundred different ways two hundred it sounded good and so it’s really about quality control from first inception conception and um and till this moment now it being released |
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Brad – it just immediately makes you laugh doesn’t it (talks) yeah he’s gonna take me out um what was the one he did red surf go see it wait wait (talks) |
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Andrew – you know Edmonton park is not there’s not a million places like that you know living village from the late 1800’s nor is there one where the sun rises on this side of the street and just back lights the windows all day so we felt pretty thrilled when we found it it was fantastic (talks) well if we make another movie in the 19th century we’ll certainly be back |
| 00:37:43 2259.9 |
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Casey – well I don’t think my son sees me on T.V. all that much sure he doesn’t watch T.V. he doesn’t know that much about it so I’m gonna just dodge this question Brad – you know it all remains to be seen but I would definitely recommend a maturity you know post 18 before you got into this thing because it can be very discombobulating and yeah Casey – listen it gets a bad wrap but there’s a lot of interesting creative people that your pretty lucky to be in this profession where you spend all your time thinking about like stories and working with very super talented fun nice people so it’s not that bad |
| 00:38:53 2329.9 |
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Brad – yeah in fact I rely on it I’m she’s the best sounding board I have and I value her opinion immensely it pisses me off sometimes but but she’s good she’s really she loves the film |
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Brad – I mean I love this kind of film this kind of film breaths and allows for human moments it’s my favorite kind of story telling it’s what lead me to Andrew but I like all film and there’s room for all film and there’s need for all film so I wouldn’t distinguish one or other I’d probably hit the wall if I just focused on one aspect of story telling |
| 00:40:26 2422.9 |
Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director
Brad – I actually did one animation with that in mind but I think that’s actually more confusing for the kids but your that sounds like but I’d rather keep it separate rather them just enjoy their cartoons with out any more confusion in their lives |
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