2005SILENT FEATURE FILMS
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MURRAY LERNER'S INTERVIEW WITH JOHN GAYDON CONTINUES
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Murray Lerner 0:13
What is it? How much money was involved? I'm just curious about what it meant before and after, you know John Gaydon 0:23 what, how much money the difference that the Isle of Wight Festival made to their earning power. It's difficult to say because prior to the Isle of Wight, they weren't earning a penny, this was the first that was the second show they ever did so, but ever since day one of the concept of putting together Emerson Lake and Palmer, we knew we had a big act, because of the, the individual parts. Because Greg had made a name for himself in very short time through King Crimson. Keith Emerson made a name for himself for some time with the nice. And although Carl was less known in atomic rooster, they had a reputation too. And it was the period of supergroups and loud bands playing huge music. And there was a huge expectancy, I guess, when they first you know, when they first did their first gigs, gigs, everybody was there to see what would happen, and what this mixture of talent would create. And, you know, the result, you know, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, Murray Lerner 1:37 what was the most anticipated in the first six months. John Gaydon 1:42 You know, when you're come from a privileged background, and go to a public school, and have never really wanted for a great deal, the money is the least important part of it, to be honest with you. And personally, I didn't think about it. It didn't enter my thinking at the time. The important part of the money was being able to keep the company going and pay for you know, building the band, the right equipment, and all that, but it was more spending it than making it Murray Lerner 2:20 what, what is managing it mean to you. John Gaydon 2:28 Management to me meant let me just pick that one again. Because for me, management, I didn't think I was really cut out to be a manager. And that's why after I left eg I decided to manage managers rather than manage artists. I think to be a manager you have to be you shouldn't be musical to start with. It helps not to be musical should I say, and therefore not have an opinion about music. It helps to be a businessman more than a musician. And although I'm not a musician, I played music. And I, I find it hard not telling the truth to artists. And to be a manager you have to be quite wily and sometimes avoid the truth. Murray Lerner 3:35 So on one hand, the group will be happy if money's coming in I know their egos being involved. If you said you didn't like something you get you get into arguments that way even though they're making money John Gaydon 3:46 with with ELP. We, we never got into arguments about their music or what they should do. Their music was their business. Our business was business. So we took care of the touring the recording, contract the agents, the promoters, what goes on on the road, and they get on with the music and as a manager. That's all the way always the way I did it. But as I said, I didn't continue managing after that. Actually, that's not quite true. I did. Murray Lerner 4:23 I got I was gonna ask you one more thing you you weren't musically inclined, right? Yeah. And what do you like about music? What is music? I mean, that was you dedicate yourself to the life of music for quite a while. John Gaydon 4:37 Yeah, I started I played in the band when I left school. And I was professional for three years we made records. I then the band finished I moved to the other side of the music industry. Yes, I love music. My life has been music but it In 1981, or 1982, I bought a CD player for the first time. And I thought, well, am I going to go and buy Led Zeppelin for? And or should I try something new and I've always hated opera. And those funny voices on the radio, I turned it off. And I listened to some Puccini and I went to Rome the first for the first time that year, and it changed my life and I've only only ever listened to opera now. Murray Lerner 5:35 What is music? What is John Gaydon 5:37 music? Memories and emotion. And so when Greg just played to me the backing track to in the court of the Crimson King, I must say I nearly burst into tears. I mean, I burst into tears, but I felt a tear coming on, because it was wonderful memories John Gaydon 5:57 of the music or the time John Gaydon 6:01 of the feeling I had when we were in Wessex studios, having borrowed five and a half grand from Barclays Bank in the Gloucester road to finish off in the corner of the Crimson King, which was the first album we put out and we owned and leased Island Records and to Ahmet Ertegun in America Atlantic. Just hearing that music reminded me of, you know, riding up to Wessex studios in North London, on my BSA Thunderbolt and every evening to hear the album being made. Murray Lerner 6:36 Okay, I think that's it John Gaydon 6:38 getting an emotional moment there Murray Murray Lerner 6:44 You come from my privilege family then. John Gaydon 6:48 Well, I went to a public public. We call it public school. Yeah. Murray Lerner 6:53 And you've what university? John Gaydon 6:55 Now the last thing I wanted to do was go to university and stay at school. Murray Lerner 6:59 Your parents didn't try to force you John Gaydon 7:01 No Murray Lerner 7:06 What did your father do? John Gaydon 7:08 Besides working at the Foreign Office, I think he was a spy. And he was in Washington in 90 when Burgess and McLean changed sides and went to Russia. He was at Cambridge with blunt and Philby and all those people. And my mother was convinced he was a spy. Murray Lerner 7:29 He was convicted. John Gaydon 7:31 My mother was convinced he was a spy. Yeah, no, it wasn't actually convicted. But that's a whole nother story. Murray Lerner 7:42 It is we're gonna get that story John Gaydon 7:43 Yeah, we'll do the spy story. Murray Lerner 7:45 Okay, fine. Nice. All right, should we get a room tone |
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CU SHOT OF BOOM MIC. SOMEONE OFF CAMERA SHOUTS FOR 30 SECONDS OF QUIET FOR A "ROOM TONE."
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AFTER THE INTERVIEW MURRAY LERNER CHATS CASUALLY WITH GREG LAKE AND JOHN GAYDON Greg Lake 8:00
I remember the one and only time I took acid was we were down in a basement flat road. And I'll never forget it and and, but it was all over in the morning and you think you know, it's safe to come out. I came up the stairs is just the door was cracking. Ideally, you're very fragile. But I come up the stairs and this London bus came down the road. Well, I could have shit myself. It just was a horrendous thing. You think it's over until you see something Like a bus coming toward you the John Gaydon 9:10 Well that's the trouble with it sort of keeps flashing back. Murray Lerner 9:16 But I was always afraid. It will tamper with my mind which it would always musicians and they pass things around. They just pass it on. must have thought I was crazy. John Gaydon 9:26 You were the smart one. Greg Lake 9:29 Some people didn't come back. I mean, there was Peter Green People like that. They just thought it people Murray Lerner 9:34 I got in, I was very friendly with Derek Taylor. Yeah, he used to smoke cigars out of fish all day. But he took me to a pub one day and he said great complement. You shouldn't take drugs because you're naturally high. So don't worry. That was a great compliment. |
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