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Opening Slate: The Eleventh Hour, Show #101, Apocalypse New York
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WNET NEW YORK GRAPHIC
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The Eleventh Hour show opener. Countdown clock.
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Show host, Robert Lipsyte, welcomes viewers. Introduces show topic by first talking about the conditions in Manhattan which drove him out of the City and to the suburbs. Now back in the city and the conditions are worse . He talks about a third world sense, poor people living on streets while rich live in "castles".
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Host Lipsyte announces tonights guests: Judge Bruce Wright, Author-Jack Newfield and people living on the streets of New York City.
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Host Lipsyte talks about the montage of anger, violence and injustice in New York and cuts to a montage of clips attesting to his statement.
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Clip from the tabloid talk show "Geraldo" hosted by journalist, Geraldo Rivera. Angry black man gets up from his chair after white man calls him "Uncle Tom" on live tv and attempts to strangle white man.
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Cut away to night time scene of violence on New York City streets, police are seen chasing victim or perp down the street. Policeman beating victim to the ground with club and shortly thereafter other police officers join in the beating.
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Young man in court room in witness box reading from piece of paper he holds in his hands. He states he is sorry to "Mrs. Griffith for your senseless loss".
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Close up on black woman surrounded by other black folk and talking into news mics, channels12 and WINS.
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Footage of the demolition of huge public housing complex in Newark, New Jersey, late 1980's. Building collapsing, clouds of smoke billowing up, onlookers watching in foreground
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Homeless man sitting on city street accepts light for his cigarette from passerby. Typed out subtitle reads, "Koch proposes charging rent for shelters"
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Close up on heavily bearded homeless man in wool cap
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Crowd on New York City street holding big banner, "stop the homeless round-up!".
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Cut to then US Attorney for Southern District of New York, Rudolph Giuliani, speaks at press conference about the current scandal involving organized crimes' alliance with the Teamsters.
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Huge crowd in front of court house. indicted Congressman Robert Garcia surrounded by reporters as he is walking out of court house.
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Close up infant in incubator, hooked up to wires and tubes
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Well dressed African American man shouting "needles" into megaphone , as large crowd of African Americans are chanting, "yes, no"- Typed out subtitle reads "City gives addicts free needles to stop AIDS spread".
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African American male activist with mic - states, "they're giving us free needles now, next they'll be giving us free heroin.
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Cut to Leona and Harry Helmsley dancing . Typed subtitle reads "Helmsleys indicted in $1.5 million tax fraud"
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Bronx Congressman Mario Biaggio walking into building surrounded by cameras and reporters. Typed subtitle reads, "Bronx Congressman Biaggi gets 5 years in racketeering scandal".
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Body wrapped in white sheet on gurney being lifted by EMTs into ambulance. Typed subtitles read: "Homicides hit a record in New York"
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Curtis Sliwa, leader of the Guardian Angels, wearing red beret talks to reporters.
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Angry black man with dreadlocks, possibly homeless, talks angrily to reporters about poor housing situation
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Government building in Yonkers New York sitting up on a hill, angry mob in forefront. Typed subtitle reads: "Yonkers fined $1 million a day for delaying housing desegregation law"
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Man in suit and tie standing on courthouse steps, proudly pulls out check book from suit jacket.
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African American, Larry Davis, convicted of drug dealer's '86 murder and known for his shootout with the police I The Bronx where six officers were shot. He was acquitted.
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Defense Attorney, William Kunstler, talks with unseen reporters about the Larry Davis case, talks about the jury seeing through police lies.
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Montage of clips, general chaos, riots, violence late '80s - scene of accident on highway with dead body wrapped in white sheet, crowd of police officers restraining crowd of African Americans with clubs, making arrests, protestors, police chasing people, man with bloodied face, weighing cocaine on scale, perp walk, violence on live tv, Geraldo Rivera holding handkerchief to bloodied nose.
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Back in studio with Host Robert Lipsyte, he introduces New York Supreme Court Justice, Judge Bruce Wright. (INTERVIEW INSERTED)
I'm sitting with judge Bruce right at the state Supreme Court. turn him loose Bruce, as he was called by cops and reporters and kind of a masterpiece of willful misunderstanding. But judge Wright was a teenaged hockey player, a combat veteran, a poet. So we know you can take care of yourself. Oh, I hope so. Yeah. Now in 1968. When I fled the city, you were on the city's human resources. That's registration. What, what did happen while I was cutting the grass, |
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Interview with Judge Bruce Wright. (INTERVIEW INSERTED)
I don't think anything really radically different happened. I think it's the mixture of before perhaps a slightly different form of the mixture. We still have lots of crime. We still have injustice, we still have lots of racism in this city, perhaps more so than in the south, without any apparent possibility that we'll have the same kind of outrage and demonstrations here that were accomplished in the south. Why is that? Well, we had a different kind of leadership from the White House for example, with with Johnson, and with Kennedy to some degree. We haven't had that under under Reagan. Reagan has made the civil rights movement, something like dim skywriting on a windy midnight, just a thing of the past. He's been against affirmative action. He's been against what he calls quotas, which means he's been up against minority interest. That's all the setback this country to a certain degree. |
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Lipsyte: How's that translated specifically to our area?
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Bruce Wright: Oh, because we have a conservative mood in the country. The whole country is so conservative that the ethical culture society had a sermon recently entitled, when the country turns right, what's left. You saw what happened to the caucus, for example, The L Word, which was held up to great disrepute. It used to be a great honor to be a liberal. No longer the conservatives are in full cry. Now
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Host Lipsyte:
why is this cyclical? is a turning point are we at the 11th hour? |
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Justice Wright: I hope so. I hope it's cyclical and I hope that the turn will be for the better although I'm not terribly optimistic.
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Host Lipsyte:
But I mean from where you sit on the bench you in a sense when when you call turn them loose Bruce it was a way of loading on you and on the justice system, all the problems of society. If only you guys would get tough with criminals, if only you guys would put them away, we'd be okay. What about the police? What about the police? |
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Justice Bruce Wright:
It makes me think of an old Latin expression we hadn't first year Latin who should guard the guardians themselves. When the police are asked to live in New York City, what is their reaction? their reaction is is too dangerous for them and their families. Indeed, who shall guard the guardians themselves? They fled with respectable whites to the to the suburbs with their mortgages and, and their respectability, and, and their prejudices. And that's a problem. On the other hand, I now see white flight coming back into the city to occupy these glittering high rise. Residential towers. |
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Host Lipsyte:
Well gentrifying Harlem for starters. |
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Justice Wright:
Well, I always think that blacks do their own gentrification. There are some of us who think that we are Gentry as well. But you're right about whites coming back to Harlem and the expenses certainly cannot be afforded by the usual residents of Harlem certainly can't be afforded by me. $900 a month for a small studio is a lot in Harlem may not be so much in the East 60s, |
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Host Lipsyte:
who are the villains? I mean, can we pick out some guys that we can? Well, I don't caught for example. I mean, is he Nero fiddling while Rome burns? |
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Justice Wright:
No, he's not fiddling while Rome burns. He's been the arsonist. |
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Host Lipsyte:
That is an incendiary statement. What does that mean? I mean, he, he's putting the torch to things, creating friction. |
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Justice Wright:
He's made a pact with the wealthy landlords and developers. He has neglected, good, solid abandoned stock in the city that could be rehabilitated for the homeless instead of them sleeping in the parks. What's the trick? I mean, what what what are they after? They're after real estate, I suppose. And perhaps they want to make this an all white city. It's already a city of the very poor and the very rich. |
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Host Lipsyte:
You know, a police commander said to me, I guess it was 7778 thank God for drugs. And for cheap wine, we wouldn't be able to contain the city. So if we take that, that plot one step further crack, the idea that there is crack is maybe another way of keeping, keeping people under control. |
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Justice Wright:
A lot of people have thought that they started with religion, especially during days of slavery, when they retired, they must love their master, and they must not do anything to harm him. And we have something of the same situation. Now I suppose with drugs. I'm astonished that nothing can be done about drugs. Once somebody becomes an addict, I think they're finished, is nothing at anybody apparently can do about addiction. And I just think it's ridiculous to give them clean needles. And the next step, I suppose, is to give them clean heroin or weakly incorrect. I don't know what to do. And the answer to that question would deserve a Nobel prize? I'm sure. |
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Host Lipsyte:
Well, but the idea that there's a kind of a hopelessness in what you say, I mean, that is kind of an urban triage. We don't have to deal with those people anymore. We can just kind of take care of the corporations who want to move here, give them tax abatements, the Euro society's restaurants. |
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Justice Wright:
Society has written off the poor people in this city, mostly the... |
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Host Lipsyte. the writing off I mean, don't you have some. What can we do?
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Judge Wright: I'm telling you what societies I haven't written them off. I'm not in charge of anything other than being fair and impartial.
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Host Lipsyte: You're now the prosecuting Angel. What are you going to do?
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Judge Wright: Oh, you mean, prosecute the developers and the Mayor?
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Host Lipsyte: Would you do that? What would you charge them with? What do you charge Koch with?
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Justice Wright: Absolutely. Uh huh. I would try. (I would charge them with..) Being a steward for the rich, basic inhumanity, being an expert and how to divide and rule this city? pit the Hispanics against the blacks, the blacks against the Hispanics and the Jews. That's what I would charge him with.
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Host Lipsyte: And the developers, Trump?
Justice Wright: Well, he's certainly not a friend of Koch. Host Lipsyte: Well, you like Trump? You're smiling. He amuses you... Justice Wright: I think it's wonderful to be rich. Host Lipsyte: But you said, one of your favorite quotes from George Bernard Shaw ends with "the greatest of evils and the worst of crimes is poverty". |
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Justice Wright: Absolutely. And I see it every day and I assume that other people do it's, it's difficult to miss I ride the subways. I take shortcuts through the park. I see how people are living even in these frigid temperatures sleeping outside still groveling in garbage cans, and Koch says he has improved the city made it a better place to live.
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Host Lipsyte: (END INTERVIEW)
Judge Wright, we've got to leave it there. We'll be back in a moment with jack Newfield author of city for sale. But first, those poor people living on the streets we're talking about we call them homeless we call them underclass we talk about them. Just listen to them in Grand Central Station talking about how and why the city's falling apart. |
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Robert Lipsyte reporting live in Grand Central Station, interviews talking head African American male about homelessness and how the city and big businesses benefitting from the homeless.
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Talking head, African American middle aged woman speaking to Lipsyte about how the City is paying extremely high rents to house people, how she feels about Trump Towers.
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Talking heads discuss with Lipsyte (unseen) how hard it is to afford to live in NYC, taxes are not going where they should, corruption, the master plan is to make all the services as profitable as possible to do this you get rid of or hidie the underclass or the indigents who are the back-bone of the city.
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Close up on talking head African American woman. She states that if you're not making $50,000/year to live in NYC you have a good chance of becoming homeless.
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Returning to the studio with Host Robert Lipsyte and guest. Lipsyte introduces Deputy City Editor of the Daily News, Jack Newfield.
Interview Begins: Host Lipsyte: $50,000 you well you should be okay this year you're Deputy City Editor of The Daily News and you've got a new hit book, "City for Sale" out. But Jack, in 1968 jack Newfield was a young reformer with a typewriter writing for The Village Voice... |
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Jack Newfield: living in a rent controlled apartment on West Ninth Street that cost $120 a month.
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Host Lipsyte: Well what happened when I was cutting the grass, you tell me.
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Jack Newfield: I think a lot of the movements in the 60s that were trying to change things were avoided or sputtered and died. The two I think the two greatest leaders this country is produced perhaps in this century. Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy were murdered eight weeks apart.
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Lipsyte: Yeah, but that was that was 20 years ago and and the people that you write about all these kind of crooks in City for Sale, they all started as reformist formers
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Jack Newfield: where I say in the book that Stanley Friedman is the only one
Robert Lipsyte : what happened. I mean, they said they said you know our leaders are dead now we're going out for ourselves |
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Jack Newfield:
No, I think that people like Koch and Manis and others we wrote about in the book I didn't. They viewed politics as a game of musical chairs and early in their careers. They saw the chair called reform was vacant and they sat in it until they can become voices. Lipsyte: It was trendy like playing tennis Jack Newfield: Well for some people it wasn't for some it wasn't. But I think that people like Koch particularly. Lipsyte: Well did they fool you? Jack Newfield: Well Koch didn't. But Manis did. Lipsyte: I saw pictures of you with your arms around Esposito and people like that just like to hang out with rogues and prize fighters, or did you think that they really were going somewhere with the city they were really doing something? |
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Jack Newfield: I began to write in the early 70s didn't mean Esposito was controlled by the mafia. In fact, Ed Koch, when he was in Congress would call me up and congratulate me on exposing Esposito as a gangster and urged me to write more, which is one of those premises of the book is that Koch knew he was selling out the city, not to rogues, but to racketeers when he made his deal with Meade Esposito and to support Koch for mayor and exchange for making people like Amaruso and Tourif Commissioners.
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Lipsyte: Let me read you something in terms of pinpointing these people. This. This is from Mayor LaGuardia in 1933. That's even worse. The bastards broke the people's back with a usury, let them die. The people will survive the bankers, the bond mongers, the public utility whores, the lawyers, those pimps for wall street, and the board judges who sided with the powerful and bless their crimes, thieving sons of bitches in robes. that's still true.
Jack Newfield: Yes, yeah. I think the point is, we need a new LaGuardia to to clean up the cesspool of government Lipsyte: Hey but this is the sense of you know, we're still waiting for Superman, the hero, the guy in a white horse, and the never come or if they come, they get knocked off, or they turn bad. |
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Jack Newfield: Well. I think leaders do make a difference. I think a lot of New York's problems, we should acknowledge are national and international and a lot of beyond anybody's capacity to solve, Aids, and crack are cosmic epidemics. But you look at a mayor like Ray Flynn in Boston, in terms of what he's done to race relations. And just by setting a tone, not being a hater, you can make people behave better.
Lipsyte: I don't think you can compare Boston in terms of, Jack Newfield: only in terms of race relations. Lipsyte: Yeah, but I mean, we've got these these plagues that you're talking about. You've got people being pushed out of the city to make it a corporate capital, and you've got this clown for a mayor. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? Again, you know, I'm offering you, you want to be the gray haired eminence to prosecuting you. What would you do specifically? |
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Jack Newfield: In terms of race relations.
Lipsyte: yeah right now. Jack Newfield: in terms of right now? What do you do for this, like the homeless problem? Yes, there's now a bill in the city council, to outlaw warehousing by landlords who hoard apartments, keep them off the market. There were about 50,000 warehouse departments Koch and Peter Villone the leader of the City Council, Robert Lipsyte: and that's specifically would be something that... Jack Newfield: that would be concrete and could be done tomorrow about homelessness. There's another bill in the city council. Robert Lipsyte Because there's something that I think that bothers a lot of people. And I guess you know, I left I left in '68 "white flight", I'm back but of the people I left the city in charge of you, I left you in charge of the city. And I don't want to put it all on your shoulders. But you're here with us, the kind of the liberals. Well, when we consider the liberals let us down. They became flabby, they had promised that they were going to make things better that they were going to reform. They were going to care. And they just kind of gave it over. I mean Trump's the Mayor now. |
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Jack Newfield: No, Koch is the Mayor. And I think it's playing into Koch's game to confuse celebrity and glitz with power and authority catches the mayor. He is responsible. He takes credit when anything goes good. And now he's got to face the music that everything has turned rotten on his watch. And you're putting it all on his shoulders. I think a lot of it is on his shoulders. He had the responsibility to deal with problems like crack when they were first developing in the early 80s. And he did not do it
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Lipsyte: If New York had a decent Mayor, likeFiorello LaGuardia, we wouldn't be in the pickle we aren't. Do you think we're in the 11th hour?
Jack Newfield: I think things are very bad. I think particularly in terms of race relations. I see incidents on the subways. flare ups. I see the way people hear the way people talk I am I think that is the most is the most manageable. Robert Lipsyte There is a terrible meanness and yet City for Sale is a hopeful book isn't it? Jack Newfield It's hopeful book and I think it will lead to was not just a different Mayor but a better mayor. Robert Lipsyte: JACK, thanks very much. We've got to leave it there. We've been talking with jack Newfield, author of City for Sale earlier with Judge Bruce Wright. I'm sure we all have more to say to each other. I have more to say and I'll be right back. |
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Interview with Jack Newfield ends.
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The Eleventh Hour show graphics.
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Host Lipsyte returns for his final segment. He holds up the popular satirical novel by Tom Wolfe and discusses the theme of the book; racism, social class and greed in NYC in the 1980's - he hates it and tears the book in half.
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Show ends, credits over clips from the program.
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Show sponsors over The Eleventh Hour graphic: Robert Wood Johnson Jr. Charitable Trust, Members of Thirteen, Geraldine R. Dodge Foundation, The Vincent Astor Foundation.
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