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Title slate: The Eleventh Hour #305, Black Mortality. Rec: 1/30/90 Dir: Andrew Wilk
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Funding by announcer. Charitable organizations overlay The Eleventh Hour graphic.
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Show opener
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Host Robert Lipsyte sitting at triangular shaped table in the studio with two guests.
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Host Lipsyte close up talking into camera about Harlem's problems symbolic of black America New England journal of medicine
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Graph overlays photo of African American male and showing life expectancy of a hypothetical Harlem male. Lipsyte narrates.
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Same graph adding the contrast of life expectancy of a male from Bangladesh and white American male. And at age 40, the life expectancy of Harlem males drops comparatively. Lipsyte narrates unseen.
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Another graph overlay face of young African American female showing life expectancy between white American females and Bangladesh females. Lipsyte narrates
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Colorful bar graph depicting Mortality in Harlem and diseases responsible for the mortality. with narration by Lipsyte
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Back with Lipsyte he introducesand welcomes tonight's guests from Harlem Hospital: Dr Harold Freeman and Dr. Colin McCord.
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INTERVIEW
Robert Lipsyte: Doctors, welcome. Let me ask you why Bangladesh, just because the statistics were available. Dr. Colin McCord That's one reason but it's also known to be one of the poorest country in the world. And it was striking to us when we made this comparison and saw what came up. Robert Lipsyte So in a sense, it was also a certain shock value. Dr. Harold Freeman It was we knew things were bad in Harlem, but we didn't know they were worse than they would be in a third world country. And that's a striking finding. Were you surprised I was shocked. I've been in Harlem as a surgeon now for 23 years, and we have seen the high mortality rate. We just didn't believe though that it was worse than one of the poorest countries in the world. In fact, it indicates that Harlem is a is equal to a third world community within the first world. Robert Lipsyte As I understand it, the the timeframe of the statistic 79 to 81 predates the the AIDS epidemic and the crack epidemic. So in a sense, would you extrapolate for us other figures more shocking now? Dr. Colin McCord The we're confident that death rates are going up. We know that the deaths between age 25 and 35 have gone up by 30%. And, and we expect that when all the figures around in the 1990 census is in, that we'll see somewhat higher death rates. Robert Lipsyte why do you think this is happening? Dr. Harold Freeman I think it's a complex problem. The underlying force causing this problem I think, is poverty. Poverty is a proxy for a number of negative events that happen including lack of education, unemployment, poor nutrition, lack of access to health care, concentration on day to day survival, doing the things that you need to do to get by related to food, clothing and shelter, losing a sense of belonging to the society dropping out, becoming hopeless and feeling powerless. This set of circumstances leads to late diagnosis and death. Robert Lipsyte Yeah, everything you just said. If you had said that you were describing Bangladesh, we would have said, well, of course, all Why should things be worse, in the middle of America, in the middle of the richest city in America than in this rural village? In Bangladesh? Dr. Colin McCord Why does poverty lead to high death rates? It's, there isn't any one single thing. But there's no question that that health care is a part of it. You don't have five times higher death rates from diabetes five times higher from pneumonia and influenza, eight or 10 times higher from asthma, unless there's a health care component. But we know also that there's a there's a major problem with prevention of disease in this community, their problems with diet, their problems, unfortunately, with substance abuse, and including alcohol and tobacco being two of the most important incidentally, homicide is only 10% of the deaths under 65. In this community, it's we don't want to underrate the importance of that. But it's not just homicide that's causing this Robert Lipsyte stereotypically That's really what we what we see in on television. Well, you're you're on the front lines of this, what do you see on a day in Harlem Hospital? Dr. Harold Freeman Well, to look at the problems that we see, we see a broad spectrum problems, breast cancer, for example, half of the women who came into Harlem Hospital with breast cancer were incurable when they came into the hospital. late disease. The scenario that is repeated over and over again, is based on the point that people in Harlem who are poor and 41% of them below the poverty level, use the emergency room as their private doctor. The emergency room is wonderful for emergencies, but it's not so good for treating asymptomatic and minimally symptomatic problems. People are triaged to other areas and financial clearance is part of that. And in fact, the process of being diagnosed for an early disease may be more painful than the disease's itself. And in that process, people go back to the neighborhoods where they're concerned about day to day things, and later come in late. I think this is repeated over and over again. |
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INTERVIEW CONTINUES:
Robert Lipsyte What you pointed out just a moment ago was cigarettes and alcohol. These are things that people can take control of their own lives about. That's right. But meanwhile, at the same time we've seen recently, Dr. Sullivan has attacked RJ Reynolds for uptown, a cigarette beam towards Central Harlem and black neighborhoods. And of course, gala one sells a lot of Thunderbird do Dr. Harold Freeman well indeed. In fact, on every other corner, there's a commercial for either tobacco or, or whiskey or wine. So the tobacco industry knows who was buying its product, the poor, and the black, the young, the young females in particular, and they target the advertising as such. So all over Harlem, we're seeing these pictures of people who look beautiful and wonderful and successful, and hopeless people who see that these pictures are easy prey for tobacco and alcohol on that, and that helps to make the problem worse. Robert Lipsyte What would you like to see the city, the state the government start doing now? Dr. Harold Freeman Well this is truly a third world problem. We tend to believe the third world is eight 8000 or 10,000 miles away, but in fact, it may be right uptown. If you live downtown in New York. I think we should approach it like a disaster is approached anyway. throughout nature. We see hurricanes and earthquakes and we respond to acute emergencies. This is a chronic disaster. It needs the same kind of martial plan type of response that you would give to a third world, part of the world that needs to be done particularly with respect to education. lifestyles that are destructive, generally formed quite early. We need to do Headstart type of educated, educating really related to substance abuse avoidance, particularly tobacco and alcohol, and teaching healthy diets, so that young people will grow up with positive promotion of their own health a part of the problem is people have to be empowered to take care of themselves, just as they do in politics. So it should be in health. Robert Lipsyte Dr. McCord, you've been in mutlab? would you add anything to that? Dr. Colin McCord Well, only that and this refers to New York, they, we know that certain things work, you know. And that's where we should put our effort Head Start, for instance, we know that that works. And it's going to be important to start early to get people on the right track to healthy way of life. But I'd like to see the the federal government, the city, try to develop more programs like Headstart, older aged kids, other things of that sort, and, and look closely at what works and what doesn't work. And then and then push on what works push hard. Robert Lipsyte Health care, health care at an early age Dr. Harold Freeman more toward prevention, we can do acute care quite well. But unfortunately, it's often too late. We need to stress resources put into preventive care, early diagnosis, early detection, and empower people through education to take advantage of these things. Robert Lipsyte Dr. Freeman,Dr. McCoy, thank you very much for being with us. |
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Interview concludes, Host Lipsyte thanks Dr. Freeman and Dr. McCord.
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Lipsyte announces next off-site segment featuring Joel Dreyfuss former Managing Editor of Black Enterprise Magazine and currently Associate Editor with Fortune Magazine
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Aerial pan Harlem, New York
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B&W still native Indian sitting (shot rom behind) overlooking a hill in rural Bangladesh
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POV top of building overlooking Harlem foggy day.
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Pan over to Joel Dreyfuss standing on rooftop of building in Harlem reports that according to the New England Journal of Medicine, as a Black man his chances of living a long life are better in Bangladesh are better than in Harlem aka "the capital of Black America".
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Zoom in on Harlem area from top of building - many high-rise brick apartment buildings very close together.
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Tilt up on on the Harlem Hospital Center building and pan down on front entrance revealing a large sculpture on the building hanging above the awning.
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Dreyfuss reporting from the front entrance to the Harlem Hospital Center walking toward camera.
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Copy of an article clipping: "Study Says Blacks Face More Segregation Than Other Groups. Strong penalties for being black. Dreyfuss narrates
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Another article clipping reads: "Survey Sows Blacks Lag in Finishing College Study Says Blacks Face More Segregation Than Other Groups". 'Strong penalties for being black
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Highlights from articles: "Survey Shows Blacks Lag in Finishing College"
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Dead body wrapped in white sheet strapped to stretcher being moved
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Row of prison cells, prisoners (Black) standing peering out from cells
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B&W clip African Americans at a rally, crowded together, chanting, clapping
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B&W clip of violence, blacks being beaten by white men
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Pan down on the large yellow Apollo Theater sign and WBLS 107.5 and WLIB 1190 AM sign, down the building to the theater marquee
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Partially obscured Apollo Theater marquee reads: Amateur Night, Carlena Shaw Feb 2 & 3; ? & Friends Jan 27
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Dreyfuss standing outside in front of Men's clothing store with beautiful suits in the window and Sale 50% off signs, reporting about Black buying power, he slowly walks and enters the store.
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Poster Ad for Uptown Cigarettes with depiction of a happy Black couple
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B&W photo overlay of Health Secretary Dr. Louis Sullivan over headline article "Dr. Sullivan's Unfiltered Anger" and subtitle marketing "slick and sinister"
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Another ad slick for Uptown cigarettes. "Uptown. The Place. The Taste." Dreyfuss narrates
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Joel Dreyfuss walking up from subway station.
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Dreyfuss walking past the 125 Street subway station with large Salem Fresh poster advertisement and toward camera. He's talking as he walks about how he feels Blacks are always better represented in advertisements than most TV sitcoms.
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Large Black lady with cigarette dangling from mouth stops in front of Salem Fresh poster at subway entrance and looks at camera.
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Tilt down on street in Harlem
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z'in on Adam Clayton Powell Jr. Blvd and One Way signs on street pole
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fade in on triple street signs in Harlem on one pole - Lenox Av , Malcolm X Blvd and W138 St
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Green street sign in Harlem - Frederick Douglass Boulevard
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Dreyfuss standing outdoors states Harlem was always poor, laden with crime and now drugs.
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Beautiful historic row houses, and close up on scrolled wrought iron fence.
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Clips of a beautiful Harlem neighborhood with historic nicely kept apartment buildings and clean streets, large education center, and a street vendor selling designer knockoff handbags. Dreyfuss unseen speaks of how even though there are these beautiful neighborhoods, Harlem is still a "warehouse of those left behind".
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Lone Black man standing on street corner large bus and traffic going by
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Store front with sign in window "Expert Tailoring and Alterations" a black woman can be seen in window on sewing machine.
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Pan out from restaurant, Mikell's, to huge old brick apartment building
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Green street signs on pole: Lenox Av, Malcolm X Blvd.
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Historic W 110 Lenox Ave sign
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Historic Harlem clips, Frank's Fish Market with barber shop upstairs, peds walking by, Black police officer directing traffic in Harlem vintage cars in bkgd., nicely dressed peds walking down the street;
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Pan out from old beat up brick apartment building, Dreyfuss standing out in front of building with garbage strewn behind him and dilapidated abandoned brick apartment buildings.
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Group of black teens hanging out on the street, drinking
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Pan up from Black person in handcuffs, plain clothes officer standing in front of him.
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Large group of protestors in Brooklyn, holding sign "Bensonhurst is OURS.
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Huge crowd of protestors in Bensonhurst chanting, "go home go home" Large American flag. Store fronts - Pizza, Discount Boutique
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B&W photo stills, "achievers":
Colin Powell, Michael Jordan, Prince, Kathleen Battle - circa 1980's. Dreyfuss narrates |
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Lone Black woman in green coat staring ahead, leaning against brick wall with graffiti.
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Clip from Spike Lee's movie, Do the Right Thing.
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Pan down from tall hi-rise office building to Joel Dreyfuss talking about discrimination as he walks closer and closer towards camera. He states that it feels like nobody will do anything to solve the issues... and that " matters of black life and death don't have a great deal of importance right now, we're still waiting for George Bush's kinder and gentler nation, and black opportunity stands about as high on the national agenda as say, Bangladesh."
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Host Robert Lipsyte back in the studio states, "the real experts on people's live are the people who live those lives". He introduces AND welcomes his guests, young adults and teenage residents of Harlem: Albert Jennings, Greg Taylor, Sheldon Shrieves, Raul Radcliffe, and Javone Summers.
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INTERVIEW:
Robert Lipsyte: ask you, when you first heard of this study, comparing Central Harlem to Bangladesh, were you at all surprised. Sheldon Shrieves I was shocked. I heard about Bangladesh as being one of the top poverty stricken countries of the Third World and for us to be compared to a country like that. It's very alarming. Robert Lipsyte what bothered you the idea that you were third world? Sheldon Shrieves Oh, well as being compared to a borough is thought of us as a first class world. I mean, I'm not saying Bangladesh is a third class, but we are a country with high economic standards. And to be compared to that is very shocking. Robert Lipsyte Greg, in in Joel Dreyfus, his tape piece he implied that America was simply not interested in in Central Harlem. Do you think that's true? Greg Taylor Yeah absolutely I don't think that our elected officials have in any way made a commitment to, to making the transition from adolescence to adulthood for African American males at all. I think that there's been an emphasis in spending that that seems to define us as a first world country. And I think that that what what actually is happening is that the people of America are really, really being shortchanged. We are one of the, you know, richest nations in the world. However, there are pockets and communities nationwide, not just in Harlem, but nationwide that really, really are suffering at the expense of that status, or at the expense of maintaining that status. And I think it's concentrated in the African American and Latino communities, Robert Lipsyte and particularly, people of your age group, black males, Raul have been kind of considered at least in the popular press as endangered species. Do you ever feel that way that you're an endangered species? Raul Radcliff Well, it's it's it's not really threatening in terms of going outside. It's because you feel that that you know, everybody in your community in terms of your neighborhood and you've grown up in that neighborhood, and you've trusted so many of the store owners and and what say But going back to what you were saying about about was the study I was not shocked at all. That was that was one thing that I was I was kind of like waiting for a study to be brought up and, and in, in being like, in waiting for it is something that I feel that maybe young people should have took upon themselves to study themselves. And it's something that that I find a fault to myself that I was not intrigued enough to study, you know what, what was going on in Bangladesh as compared to Central Harlem. And it didn't, it didn't shock me at all. But I'm saying I should, you know, young people should have took initiative. And young people need to take initiative and stand up, and like know about studies like this. And I just hope that this is not just another one of those studies, where we accept it. And we say, yeah, it's okay. You know, it's alright, we know about this now. Robert Lipsyte Well, let me interrupt you. For what purpose? Would you take the initiative and do this study? I mean, where do you want to go with it? Who do you want to, Raul Radcliff I want to actually, I want to educate the young minds of Central Harlem, to let them know that we are killing our own, we are killing on people. And, and it's worse, you know, it's worse here. And, and as, as Greg was saying before, as man made, you know, in terms of manmade, poverty, and it's worse here than it is, you know, in Bangladesh, just to let them know, on a whole we've been, we've been controlled in terms of responding more to entertainment, rather than education. Because entertainment, you look at you look at athletes, they get paid like Like millions, and educators get paid, you know, what minimal, and that's, that doesn't make any sense. And the world we live in doesn't make any sense. And that's one of the things that we need to evaluate is |
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INTERVIEW CONTINUES:
Robert Lipsyte one of the things you kind of imply, maybe Albert would comment on it is that you're not getting the right information. Through the media, or whatever you're not knowing learning what you need to know, or the community isn't. Albert Jennings That's definitely true. When we talk about the media, the media has portrayed young African American males in very negative light. And it seems educators think that and we internalize this, I mean, educators think that we can only go so far, and we picture ourselves only going so far, all we see is young, African American males, the successful ones, being an NBA basketball player, and only 414 NBA basketball players in the country, there are many more brain surgeons, you know, and many more nuclear physicists than our basketball players. But yet, we could never picture ourselves as becoming a nuclear physicist, all we could picture ourselves as becoming an NBA basketball player. Robert Lipsyte Well, but somewhere in between there is just you know, most most of us are just kind of ordinary and get jobs Javone in terms of yourself and your friends, how hard is it to go out and just get a job and make a living? Javone Summers Well, especially with, with people from my age group, it is hard because they feel that we were not up to the responsibility, and doing the job and, and we have other bad, you know, we will go out and do something else, we would rather be out doing something else than doing the job. We don't really Robert Lipsyte When you say they you're talking about the people who would hire people that are hiring stereotypes. Javone Summers Yeah, the stereotypes are put in front of us, Robert Lipsyte have you tried Javone Summers Yes, I have tried to get many jobs and have been turned down, just because, um, and besides most of the jobs that I look for, the I like, when I look for a job, I look for a job that well I can I can produce, like more for the company or something. So I would help the company, I don't want to like stock a stock person or, or messenger or something like that, you know, I want to be I mean, I can understand that you have to work your way up in a company or organization. So, but it's just that they look at us in a different way. Robert Lipsyte Greg, one of the implications in a study like this is if Harlem is indeed worse than a part of Bangladesh, is that you have to get out of Harlem, you have to get out of it to make it. Greg Taylor Yeah, absolutely there's nothing further from the truth. I think that the figure that was quoted earlier about black people have access to $200 billion dollars worth of, of money that we need to spend on black businesses, in black communities. I think that we need to, to begin, I think Harlem is is a wonderful center of learning of cultural experience of day to day life, both Latino and African American and I think that I it represents what we are and to deny that is to once again to accept what society in a way has said about the African American experience and to deny ourselves I think that we emulate our society and our surroundings. And by taking away Harlem from us in a way we were it's almost like losing a part of us and I think Robert Lipsyte you went to college, Greg Greg Taylor Yeah I go to Hunter College Now. I'm a senior at Hunter College now Robert Lipsyte and did you have I mean, stereotypically, you know, you shouldn't have gotten from what we see in the media shouldn't have gotten there. Greg Taylor Absolutely. I have. I've had the typical upbringing, you have a typical, absolutely. I've gone to an inner city high school. And from there I, you know, took a year off. And, you know, I just I had a commitment to myself, but I had to find that in myself. Raul made a comment earlier talking about how most African Americans feel that they can only be stock people, secretaries, messengers, and and this is what we're fed, this is also what we have access to. And there's just something in me. And I think that it's been instilled by in programs like the valley, Robert Lipsyte what do you think that you're special? Or that Greg Taylor No, not at all? I Robert Lipsyte just think that what about Albert, Greg Taylor there's a resiliency that you must have. Yeah, I Robert Lipsyte mean, you know, you're in college now, right? Yes, that's true. I mean, did you have a typical upbringing, you think that you're special? Albert Jennings No, I'm not special. I just think that I was fortunate to have a mother, my mother was special. And when she raised me, she was I didn't watch much television as a young, young child growing up. And I had to go to the army to get the army college fund to go to college. And this is what enabled me financially to attend school. But no, I don't think I'm special. I mean, it's your conditions that allow you to succeed, and the conditions of a young African American male and Harlem are that that he's not allowed to succeed. I mean, his health conditions, his economic conditions, his social conditions, and unless we change these conditions, it's only going to get worse, |
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INTERVIEW CONTINUES:
Robert Lipsyte well, how many guys that you went to high school have formed by the wayside?Greg Greg Taylor many lots, lots of friends have been killed and end up in jail and all of that. And I think that Robert Lipsyte the people, the people sitting around me shall represent guys, who got into a program of gotta help somewhere along the way. Sheldon Shrieves Yes, these are people, but I believe it's up to the individual, you have to be strong willed, it's up to you to make that decision. There are a lot of negative aspects around you. But it's up to you, the individual. Fortunately for Albert, his mother pushed him but not all of us are as fortunate some of us have to do it on our own. So I feel it's up to the individual. That's why we're fortunate to have youth programs such as the Manhattan Valley Youth program Robert Lipsyte What does America have to do now? Greg Taylor I think that they need to that America really needs to make a commitment. I think that that you, I think we need to change the vision. I really think that the vision of our elected officials is to deal with a crisis or to deal with a problem after an individual commits it as opposed to preventing the problem from happening in the beginning preventive cert preventive services, I was a latchkey kid, I went home to an empty home, I cooked my own dinner because my mom had to work. But and it instilled in me a sense of responsibility. But it was very easy for me to use that responsibility in another way. I didn't personally. But I really think that it what needs to happen. There needs to be programs, that that really, really instill responsibility that instill in us that our thought process is equal to that of society as a whole to white America, if you will, I think that we need to have be confident in how we move through the streets, and how we move in classrooms. We need not to hesitate to speak on personal experiences and know that our personal experience is valid. And that's where I think it's really about confidence, and it's really about a responsibility and commitment to the individual. Robert Lipsyte Greg Taylor, Javone summers, Sheldon Shreeves, Albert Jennings, Raul Radcliff, thank you very much for joining us. |
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Interview concludes, Lipsyte thanks guests and encourages viewers to write in to the viewer forum, "Talkback"
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Talkback envelope with address and stamp with phone number overlay
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Host Lipsyte announces the show and introduces himself. Show ends.
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Show credits overlay the show graphics.
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Funding by announcer and charitable organizations overlay The Eleventh Hour graphic.
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