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Opening slate. The Eleventh Hour, show #102. Rec: 1/5/89
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Tilt down on show host Lipsyte at desk looking up at cameras in studio, countdown to live open. Lipsyte welcomes viewers. Several takes.
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Another take at show opening. Host Robert Lipsyte welcomes viewers and announces topic of today's show.
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Opening slate. The Eleventh Hour, Show #102
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Another take at show opening. Live countdown. Host Lipsyte looking into camera announces show topic. Teenage documentary filmmakers
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Opening Slate #3, show #102
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Tilt down on The Eleventh Hour Studio. Host Robert Lipsyte is seen sitting at desk looking at papers. Three teenage guests (film makers) sitting on sofa. Live countdown.
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Lipsyte in studio begins to introduce three teenage documentary filmmakers. take 1
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Shaky camera, tilt down on Lipsyte and guests in studio.
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The Eleventh Hour - #102. Take 2 - slate
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Countdown and Host Lipsyte walks over to sofa and introduces teenage documentary film makers - Evan Attmore , teen from Harlem; Steve Goodman, Director Educational Video Center and Hector Sanchez, recent high school graduate.
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Lipsyte talks with young documentary filmmakers:
Robert Lipsyte: Gentlemen, let's meet three hot videomakers. Evan Atmore is 17. He lives in Harlem. Steve Goodman is Director of the Educational Video Center. And Hector Sanchez was graduated from high school last June. Hector, I got the impression that you were having some some trouble in school until you snagged hold of video cameras. What was happening? Hector Sanchez: Well, I don't know, I just didn't have any direction. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I was thinking, Hey, you know, I was just thinking about dropping out of life, you know? And then Stevie made me feel like, I could do something worthwhile, something creative, something long-lasting, something that affects the community. Robert Lipsyte: Steve, is that is that common with the kids you've been working with? Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director: Well, yeah, that's true. A lot of times, we would work with kids who, you know, really weren't interested in what was going on in school. And they would really latch on to doing camera work, because it gave them a chance to do something creative and say something about, you know, their community in a way they weren't able to do that in school. Robert Lipsyte: Are you part of the Board of Education? Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director: No, we're independent from the Board of Ed. Robert Lipsyte: How do you pick kids? I mean, what are you looking for? Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director: Well, we talk to high school teachers, we get recommendations from teachers, counselors, sometimes principals will send them to us and we also go out and make presentations to a lot of schools. And now a lot of it's word word of mouth to win. Some kids are in the program, though, you know, mention it to their friends, Robert Lipsyte: That Evan, Evan, your piece, your piece is going to be the first one up has already caused controversy. What, what's story? Evan Atmore: Okay, um, I guess the reason is, controversy is come about is because in the documentary people are actually shown smoking crack. And I guess people don't like the image that that projects. So, well, the idea that that projects I guess, some people think is glamorizing drugs or, you know, a temptation for other people to try it. Robert Lipsyte: Well, as they say, in other parts of town, let's go to the videotape. We might as well see what we've been talking about the first piece by Evan Atmore. |
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Unseen Director of show is heard prompting Lipsyte, several takes are shot.
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Host Lipsyte inserts video into video machine and introduces first documentary, "Crack Clouds over East Harlem", by Evan Attmore.
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z'in on tv screen as video starts. then cutaway to The Eleventh Hour slate.
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A frustrated Lipsyte getting tired of repeated takes, jokingly under his breath, curses "f--- you", then looking up smiles into camera.
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Again Lipsyte getting up from chair inserts video into machine and introduces the documentary by teenager, Evan Attmore - "Crack Clouds over Hell's Kitchen"
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Cut. Lipsyte and guests sitting quietly in Eleventh Hour studio, waiting for next prompt from director.
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Host Robert Lipsyte interviews Evan Attmore about the making of his documentary:
Robert Lipsyte: Mcthirsties. Evan, that was hot. How did you get them to be so open and relaxed with you? Evan Atmore: Um, oh, really? Open and relaxed. Okay. Because, well, they were open. Because, well, they were open because, well, the curiosity they just like came over. And they just... spoke. Robert Lipsyte: You mean they wanted to be on TV? Evan Atmore: Yeah, they thought they were going to be on television. So I guess they thought there was going to be something in it for them. Even once, after an interview, this guy asked me for $3. You know, so he didn't get to $3- I bought him a beer. Robert Lipsyte : That was real checkbook journalism there, huh? Evan Atmore: Yeah. Robert Lipsyte: Do you think do you think that it glorified drug use, your piece? Attmore: Well, no, I just, I think it just exposed it for what it is. A lot of people aren't really familiar with the actuality of it. So that's what I was hoping to bring out, to enlighten young people. Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director: I think they did a really good job at doing that. Also that, you know, just showing, letting the people talk for themselves and showing them to be very intelligent, particular people with a problem. Robert Lipsyte: Yeah. Which in a way does tend to glorify drug use, because you know, there is that sense there. That hey, these guys are alright. They're on television, that telling the rest of us don't do this thing. But meanwhile, they're taking drugs. We're gonna we're gonna move on. The second video is by Millie Raez who couldn't be with us today. She calls her video and East Harlem story, and you may be offended by what you see. In fact, we kind of hope you are offended. |
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Host Lipsyte introduces next documentary film "An East Harlem Story", made by teen, Millie Rays. He points remote at TV. Video begins but cuts out and is not seen.
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Back to studio and Lipsyte talks to Steve Goodman about Millie's tape.
Interview insert: Robert Lipsyte: Your people do good work. It was something really emotionally courageous about Millie's tape. Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director: Well, I think what it was is that it was her family, her building, her neighbors, her community. And she was able to open that up to the other kids in the crew and to all the viewers who would see the documentary, Robert Lipsyte: Where is your video center? Steve Goodman: We're down in lower Manhattan and 87 Lafayette Street. Yeah. And kids from all around the city. Robert Lipsyte: Can they just call you up and come down if they want. This is after school or Sunday? Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director: It's in the afternoons and students come to the documentary workshop from 1 to 4 after school and they get credit for it. And they've just done amazing work because it's their issues their communities. Robert Lipsyte: Yeah, well, why is the Board of Education not throwing money at you and supporting it and thinking it is terrific? Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director : We have gotten some support. And we of course, couldn't have done what we have without support of a lot of dedicated teachers and principals. But there are some that feel that these that we're picking up on depressing issues that are we're glorifying drugs, as Evan was saying. And instead, we feel that these are issues that the students live with every day. And it couldn't be any more depressing to make a documentary. Robert Lipsyte: Do you direct them towards these subjects? Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director 16:39 These are topics that they come up with themselves. No, we say that they should be an issue that would be of interest to others, because we do share these tapes and they do get used and- Robert Lipsyte: You have a political subtext to this. I mean, it's not just kids going out and, and, and shooting pretty pictures. I mean, you've got something that you want to show the community. Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director: These are social issues, social problems that they encounter every day in their in their lives, and they are sometimes obstacles to their getting, you know, successful in schools. And so we say let's turn that around and, and use these as the topic. Robert Lipsyte: Yeah. Okay. Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director : And they've won many awards. Actually, this tape, Millie's tape won the top prize in the Tokyo video festival. And we went to Japan last year, and Evan's tape also won an award just recently. So it's been, it's getting known. |
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Host Lipsyte introduces next video by Hector Sanchez, "Life in the G".
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Wide shot, Lipsyte in the studio sitting on chair, guests on sofa. Countdown can be heard by unseen Director.
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Lipsyte interviews teen Director, Hector Sanchez, about his documentary. Interview Insert:
Robert Lipsyte : They even changed the name of your neighborhood. You hate yuppies? Hector Sanchez: Not like I used to. Robert Lipsyte: What changed? Hector Sanchez: You know, like, when I found out more about gentrification through making this tape, I found that it's not just because I think they just did it blatantly. You know, like, they hated poor people. But everybody needs a place to live. And you know, and it's not directed, you know, against this race or that race, you know, they just want a nice place to live. And we just happen to live there. You know, it's, it's not i'm not saying that it's right. But the you know, there has to be some kind of, you know, we have to get together and make some compromises and say, you know, you can live here we can live here too. Not just say, hey, you have more money than me. You know, I'm just gonna let you push me out. Robert Lipsyte: Do you think you can use your camera? Is that kind of social tool to make change or wake people up? Hector Sanchez: Yeah, because a lot of my friends who are my age a little younger, a little older, they don't think about these things and, and they just tend to lay back and say, oh, you know, there's nothing we could do about it. You know, and, and I seen a lot of my friends even my own brother became homeless because of gentrification and not being able to afford neighborhoods and stuff. And I'm just, like, just tired as you know, seeing the same people just lay back and let it happen. I'm not saying Robert Lipsyte: Your own brother is homeless. Hector Sanchez: Yeah. Robert Lipsyte: Would you shoot a film on him? Hector Sanchez: Yeah, I would. Not to make them look bad or anything, but just to let people know that it's just not just junkies, alcoholics that are becoming homeless, but actual people, you know, people with families and smart, because he was very smart, but just the changes, you know, just brought him down. Robert Lipsyte: Would you have thought this way before you had a camera in your hand? Hector Sanchez: No, not really. Because I was one of those who think, well, there's nothing we could do about and I just say, I hate yuppies, and it's all their fault. But you know, see, it's not only not it's not only happening in my neighborhood, it's happening in other neighborhoods. And I felt that if I made this tape, you know, maybe not really stop it, but to educate the young people. Robert Lipsyte: Well let me ask you this. I mean, you got kind of politicized by going out and shooting. But I mean, you watched a lot of television before you ever picked up a camera? Didn't you see this stuff on television? Hector Sanchez: Yeah, but on television, they tend to do a real flat, you know, you know, real journalistic type view. See, I wanted to do something with soul with heart because I came from the neighborhood. And I wanted to show it from my point of view that this is this was my home. And I knew that people that lived here, it's not just I came into a different neighborhood and said, this is what's going on. |
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Interview with Sanchez, Goodman, and Attmore continues:
Robert Lipsyte: Is that what you're aiming for? I mean, Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director: Just exactly what he's saying is what we're trying to make happen, where we can teach kids a certain skill, how to use cameras, how to do research, and then how to go back into their neighborhoods and investigate and ask questions. Robert Lipsyte: You're a subversive influence. Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director: We're just trying to get them to look at what they live through every day, in a different way. And then bring that up for questioning and discussion. And and try it to make change. Robert Lipsyte: And to put it out there. Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director: Yeah. And it's some people call it empowerment. You know, Hector, and Evan and the others are empowered, we hope, through this program. Robert Lipsyte: Do you feel empowered? Do you feel like an instrument for social change? Evan Atmore: No, well, no, I don't feel like an instrument. I just, I mean Yeah. I like to think of it that way. Robert Lipsyte: Are you guys going out there with these these guns? You call camera shooting bullets of truth? Is that Is that it? I mean? You like that. You like to think you feel like hero, camera man out there doing stuff? Evan Atmore: Yeah. I feel like I'm doing something that that hasn't been done before because I've never seen anything on television that exposed through with these bullets on the camera. So I'm, I'm glad I did it. No, and um. Robert Lipsyte: And would you like to get on the networks and do this stuff? Show it to everybody? All at once? Evan Atmore 22:27 I would like everybody to see it. I think we will. Of course, it's not going to please everybody is going to raise controversy, of course. But the majority of people will take it for what it is, you know, it's an educational piece. Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director: Yeah, I think one thing that's important about it is that they are describing their world because they, as they understand it, because they live in it. And it's different from someone from the outside coming in and describing this the problem with gentrification or drugs or substandard housing, Robert Lipsyte : Well, how about sending these guys with their attitude up to Park Avenue or to an art auction? Or into a yuppies house? You guys could handle that? Hector Sanchez : Yeah, now, because when I was when I first started the program, I had a lot of aggression, you know, with no aim, with no direction. See, what Steve done, he, he helped me channel my energy into doing what's good. Go to college, you know, work, you know, learn more, do actual work in the field. Robert Lipsyte: What's next for you? Hector Sanchez: Just keep on working one day I want to Robert Lipsyte: Do you have a project? Hector Sanchez: Not really a project, but I'm just freelancing. You know, I work for others on their projects. But I want eventually to do, as you know, just work in the field, become a cameraman, and just, you know, start my own little company, whether it be nonprofit, educational, or for profit, you know, just get in the business. And Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director: You told me you may be going to Africa as a production assistant on a crew. Hector Sanchez: Yeah. Steve Goodman, Educational Video Center Director: Yeah, it's my first time going to be out of the country, you know, work on actual tape about AIDS in Africa. Yeah, he's been Robert Lipsyte:8 That's high. Evan, do you have another project coming? Evan Atmore: Yeah. I was doing some research for a project now. Another tape for EBC. And one of the topics I'm doing research on is religion, on the aspects of religion. I want people from different religions giving their points on what they believe in, how they think, God, like if they think God works through people and and I even want to speak to an atheist who doesn't even really have Robert Lipsyte: Do you have a point of view on this? I mean, you're gonna wake up the world to something else here. Do you think religion is being used in some way? Evan Atmore: No, I it's just that um, I want to do one on religion because teenagers are falling out of religion. There are too many teenagers who are like they used to be 40 years ago. You know, people are basically doing what they want to do. Nobody ever thinks of God anymore. You know, I myself, don't even think of Robert Lipsyte: I have a feeling you guys are going to be back. Well, we've got to leave it there. But the stories roll on. Evan and Steve and Hector are going to keep shooting and directing and teaching. And we hope maybe there'll be shooting for us again sometime. How about right now Hector? This is the 11th hour. I'm Robert Lipsyte, I'm sorry to say this is the 11th hour, Now what about the handoff is going to come in there in the middle of the close? Why? |
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Show wraps up. Credits rollover teens in studio pretending to use camera,
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Another take at show wrap up. Host Lipsyte in studio - talking (no sound), smiling into camera.
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Show credits run over shots of guests in the studio. Student film makers seen filming Lipsyte and other guests.
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End Reel.
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